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Hi,
I'm making my first steps at creating some graphics content. I decided to start working on a quiver and had several ideas about it:

1. It could be added as a general item that is always used to carry arrows. So every archer that equips arrows, has them in a quiver. This is the simplest approach but wouldn't add more than an icon to the game.

2. A quiver could be obtainable via shop or quest as an extra item (a charm maybe or as a replacement for the usual arrow-bundles in that same slot - not sure, if that'd work codewise). The advantage could be a lowered attack delay for ranged attacks (-50 for example).

Both options can be enhanced to have the quiver visible on the back of the player. With option 1 the quiver would be visible, whenever a bow is equipped, with option 2 only if you have the item of course.

To give it a shot, I tried making an icon for a quiver item. Since it's my first attempt at pixel art, I'm sure, there's a lot to criticize - so please share your thoughts with me on this!

Ragnarok Online (the game our server was actually developed for) had quivers for archer as a simple way to increase their carry capacity. Usually archers had to carry lots of arrows which was quite a burden for them, because they had low strength and thus a low weight capacity. Quivers were a simple consumable item which were converted to 100 arrows when used, but weighted less than those 100 arrows before they were used. This allowed bow-characters to carry a lot more arrows than before without returning to town all the time.

I like the idea, Crush. Also a simple yet useful approach (though physically a little implausible).

I tried to improve the form, gave it an outline and made a version that is filled. I'd still appreciate some more feedback...

I already got the suggestion to give it lighter colors and recolor the outline to a dark tone instead of black - that'd be my next step.

I think the "use up quiver to get more arrows", but it would be also possible to:

• Require the quiver at all in order to use bows.
• Give a bonus to attack speed with bows but only if we are willing to cram quivers into an equip slot

Putting quiver in an equip slot is the only way it can be visible on the player sprite.

A summary of the current equip slots:

Crush wrote:Ragnarok Online (the game our server was actually developed for) had quivers for archer as a simple way to increase their carry capacity. Usually archers had to carry lots of arrows which was quite a burden for them, because they had low strength and thus a low weight capacity. Quivers were a simple consumable item which were converted to 100 arrows when used, but weighted less than those 100 arrows before they were used. This allowed bow-characters to carry a lot more arrows than before without returning to town all the time.

Just a small remark: Depending the char level, I use to carry from 3000 to 5000 (ordinary) arrows.

Quiver is a cool idea, the concept sounds convincing. The only thing i dread is drawing it's 300 sprite frames.
There already exists a trello card for this idea btw: https://trello.com/c/9GxdjN9D

Since I don't want this topic to get forgotton I throw in an idea I once had:

Making the quiver an useable item which gives out a random number of Arrows or Iron Arrows by using it.
Would make sense: you find a quiver and check how many and which kind of arrows are in it.

Also replacing some arrow monster drops with a quiver instead (IMO some arrow drops, like 1% from Pink Flowers, are ridiculous).
But then of course not making it buyable from shop NPCs.

Agreed, arrow drops don't make sense in most places.

Cassy wrote:Making the quiver a useable item which gives out a random number of Arrows or Iron Arrows by using it.

mmh i think bundle of arrows would be nicer for that problem, scripting the random outcome isnt problematic though.

Quiver imo should be a piece of equipment player can wear.

Cassy wrote: Also replacing some arrow monster drops with a quiver instead (IMO some arrow drops, like 1% from Pink Flowers, are ridiculous).
But then of course not making it buyable from shop NPCs.

+1

But i preffered o11c's idea of making the quiver an equippable item.