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pickpocket is a thief

Posted: 31 Jul 2008, 00:12
by krazymonkeys
player named pickpocket is running around stealing any drop he can get. Several of us are mad at him/her. Screenshots included of him stealing and of comments from other players attached.
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Re: pickpocket is a thief

Posted: 31 Jul 2008, 08:45
by ElvenProgrammer
Hmm none of these screenshots are a proof of him stealing.

Re: pickpocket is a thief

Posted: 31 Jul 2008, 19:55
by krazymonkeys
Just curious, but how exactly do you expect me to get a screenshot proving that he is a thief when the only person that gets any message about a drop is the person that picks it up? Also, drop stealing isn't exactly against the rules, just a royal PITA so the thread was more to let ppl know to stay away from him and don't kill anything while he is around than anything.

Edit: btw, wasn't trying to flame, just stating the obvious.

Re: pickpocket is a thief

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 03:00
by tarax
You have to do what I did in the snakepit, pickpocket stole 3 of my hats, so engaged the snakes and then ran around behind him until they killed hem 3 times and he gave up on following me...

Re: pickpocket is a thief

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 07:32
by ElvenProgrammer
krazymonkeys wrote:Just curious, but how exactly do you expect me to get a screenshot proving that he is a thief when the only person that gets any message about a drop is the person that picks it up? Also, drop stealing isn't exactly against the rules, just a royal PITA so the thread was more to let ppl know to stay away from him and don't kill anything while he is around than anything.

Edit: btw, wasn't trying to flame, just stating the obvious.
Indeed, but why posting screenshots then?

Re: pickpocket is a thief

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 09:00
by Platyna
Stealing is not against the rules, especially because it cannot be proven.

Regards.

Re: pickpocket is a thief

Posted: 01 Aug 2008, 10:41
by NeedMana
I see so much efforts from the GMs in this game. At least make it clear that there will be system of giving time to one player get its loot like all MMOs have; or will it be like this permanently? I see a huge lack of attention to the players from the GM's part.

I got prove in my screeshots that a guy was stealing me, and he was botting for a whole day. No answer at all. Make it clear in the stick that you can't do nothing about stealing and that this will be adressed later, if so. And this isn't a judment court. If a GM got witnesses that someone is acting bad and stealing, you can go there and warn the player. Or you can follow a player that is being said has a stealer and get him in the act. The thing is that noone want to do nothing about it now, so at least explain it so players can get it easily and look up for a better future in the game, if so, again. Now, we are playing and helping an Alpha game, we get hassled by childish people, we take screens, we post on a site and post in the forums; all to get what does it prove? Its proves to me amateurism and waste of potential. I found the game fine, and glad to see a Abuse Report section, but its useless. A kid saying you bad names in game, will not hurt like a guy stealing your things, since that affects the gameplay. A botter can steal you pretty fast. If there will not be a system to combat that, then GMs must listen to the players. A player that takes all the work to post a screenshot and menssage, after lossing his things is a victim, and helps to improve the game and the community. I would say in 80% of the cases that really happened, so you give that player a much harder time asking about proves when the game don't allow it. What it does prove is that the player is showing up efforts to stop someone and other players witnessing it. A player helps, but thats a GMs job. I would say, don't mess with the dignity of the honest players you might have in your game, while giving an easier time for the bad ones to do their things against these players. Thats totaly non productive. Take that has one of the proves, a GM must right go out for the others to make something or maybe even lead this to an almost end, by warning said player. Thats in the case of don't having a system to stop that, that would be timming for the player who drop to get it. Just could inform about such a thing so players can avoid reporting stealing, or the other solution is really to give these players attention about what is happening and maybe do something?

Re: pickpocket is a thief

Posted: 02 Aug 2008, 19:32
by kr0n05931
Seriously, this is a pre-alpha game. Notice the version 0.0.25.0.

How about instead of complaining you help out and write a code for it? You'd be surprised with the great tutorials you can find with this link:

http://www.google.com

Also, the GMs are doing a great job considering there are only 4 of them. And most (if not all) of our GMs live in Europe, so the conflicting timezones make it hard for them to spot bad players. On top of that 90% of the evidence posted in this forums isn't even evidence. They can't just go off and ban people based on one person's account. I will admit however they need a couple more GMs, perhaps some in different timezones.

Re: pickpocket is a thief

Posted: 02 Aug 2008, 19:52
by Jaxad0127
kr0n05931 wrote:Seriously, this is a pre-alpha game. Notice the version 0.0.25.0.

How about instead of complaining you help out and write a code for it? You'd be surprised with the great tutorials you can find with this link:

http://www.google.com

Also, the GMs are doing a great job considering there are only 4 of them. And most (if not all) of our GMs live in Europe, so the conflicting timezones make it hard for them to spot bad players. On top of that 90% of the evidence posted in this forums isn't even evidence. They can't just go off and ban people based on one person's account. I will admit however they need a couple more GMs, perhaps some in different timezones.
The only real GM we have right now is Platyna. Another in the Pacific region or Asia would help.

Re: pickpocket is a thief

Posted: 02 Aug 2008, 23:54
by kr0n05931
I thought elven, bjorn, and rotonen were all GMs as well.

EDIT- Pauan would be a good GM, doesn't he live in hawaii?

Re: pickpocket is a thief

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 00:09
by Matt
pauan seems kinda dead, havent seen him for ages...

Re: pickpocket is a thief

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 14:42
by Rotonen
I was recently stripped of both my GM and moderator statuses due to a mistake of mine.

Re: pickpocket is a thief

Posted: 03 Aug 2008, 19:20
by krazymonkeys
Indeed, but why posting screenshots then?[/quote]


posted screen shots to show players since it isn't technically against the rules. Players know other players and also know who is reliable in their information. It doesn't take much to ask someone if a person really is a drop thief and then avoid them if they see them. GM's won't do anything considering it isn't a rule being broken, but that doesn't mean the players can't look out for themselves and other players. If in an area that everything attacks you then it's easy to get a thief killed. If you are in an area such as the desert south of town, then you can just sit down and wait for them to leave.

Re: pickpocket is a thief

Posted: 08 Aug 2008, 22:54
by Platyna
Loot stealing is not an abuse. DO NOT POST REPORTS ABOUT IT HERE.

And it is not about lack of GMs, it is about not banning innocent people, and I am not going to ban without ensuring their guilt.

Regards.