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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by Rotonen » 17 Oct 2008, 15:57

Mockup 2 tries to push in too much direct detail and hence looks simple and not especially good. The details are too equal to each other.

In mockup 1 we have a good example of "details through imagination". You clearly have the essential details and all else is there just to support it to be a complete something.

Zoomed in, both just mess and don't make sense, but your mind fills in the details and makes it look good as a whole. That's in my opinion the very essence of pixel art.

(Yes, it's about the contrast difference making the light show. It also makes you concentrate more on the details the artist in question has felt the need to highlight. Makes it more alive. You're not reproducing reality here, you're making an approximation and you need to compromise about which details to get in there as the primary characteristics at our scale.)
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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by Crush » 19 Oct 2008, 17:51

Those new trees look really great. But the recolorisation of the rocks looks strange.

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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by Modanung » 08 Dec 2008, 06:22

Agreed, great trees. Liking mockup 1 best.
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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by Len » 08 Dec 2008, 20:37

I'm almost done with Finals :x (so hopefully I can help out again soon) :P
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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by Saphy » 15 Dec 2008, 03:14

Hi, long time no see.

I just finished my last term in school, so I have time to draw more pictures now that I am graduating. Inspired from this thread, I have also created a tree.

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Does it fit in with the mana world's style?
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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by kr0n05931 » 15 Dec 2008, 03:52

Very nice, could you make one version with snow on it for the ice area aswell? We are currently in need of trees so we can implement new maps.
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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by Crush » 15 Dec 2008, 03:53

No, I don't think that trees with leafs would fit into the ice area. The only trees there should be fir trees.

But it would surely be a good replacement for the current tree in woodland when it would only be two tiles wide. Can you try to make a tree with that look which fits into 64x96 pixels? Maybe using the same color palette Len used for his last tree so that both trees work together properly? Then we would have a replacement for both old tree types from the woodland_x3 tileset.
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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by Saphy » 15 Dec 2008, 04:47

I could scale it and apply Len's colour scheme for leaves like this:

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But because of the smaller size, some details are lost.

Btw, Len's trees are also bigger than 64x96.
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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by Crush » 15 Dec 2008, 04:53

Automatic resizing won't do. It blurs the graphic too much.
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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by Saphy » 15 Dec 2008, 04:54

Crush wrote:Automatic resizing won't do. It blurs the graphic too much.
It doesn't blur, just that some pixels will be lost. But it does look ugly at 400%. I will see what I can do.
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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by Crush » 15 Dec 2008, 05:09

In-action shot of trees together (i resized Lens tree slightly by cutting away some random horizontal and vertical lines):
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To make the trees work together properly it will be necessary to:
-Unify the trunk color
-Add a stronger shadow to the second tree
-Make the second tree taller (by making the trunk longer)
-Add a dropshadow to the second tree

The modified woodland_x2:
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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by Saphy » 15 Dec 2008, 05:30

Like this?

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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by Crush » 15 Dec 2008, 05:36

The same scene with the new graphic:
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There is still a slight color correction of the treetops necessery, I think.
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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by Len » 15 Dec 2008, 05:51

Saphy wrote:Hi, long time no see.

I just finished my last term in school, so I have time to draw more pictures now that I am graduating. Inspired from this thread, I have also created a tree.

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Does it fit in with the mana world's style?
I’m between semesters, so I also have some free time (Fantastic work as always Saphy)
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Re: [WIP]the woodland?????

Post by Crush » 15 Dec 2008, 05:53

I think the color is as good as it can be. But there is still a problem with the shading. Note how Len has a much more intense shading with a strong hue shift to blue. When you were able to copy this it would be perfect.
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