kr0n05931 wrote:You can whisper to other players in any language. The thing is that the moderators don't speak every language and do not know when users speaking other languages are engaging in illegal activity.
I have the pleasure to be part of a large number of different communities in inet, public and private. I work in a place where english, even not being the primary language for all of us, is almost the only language we use... but i have never read such stupid thing in my life as this new "great" idea. I'll add this one to the other recent "great" ideas that you have developed. I will try to concentrate in this particular issue since i have already talk about the other great ideas in another post.
Is clear that, from the moderators standing point, it's impossible to do their job if they don't understand the lenguage used by the players. But we already had a rule for that. now you're trying to make it tighter enough to make it impossible to play for people that doesn't understand nor speak english. Mine is not very good, but improves every day and i'm proud of that. However, I've seen players, spanish speakers, 8, 9 or 10 years old enjoying this game a lot and having fun in a "free" way. most of us are linux users and, in case you geniuses didn't noticed, linux is getting very popular around here (im in argentina BTW) so it's natural that lots of non english speaker users got here. I don't have much time to commit to nor have any intention of becoming a spanish/english moderator or something like that. But you really need to start thinking before is too late: this stupid ideas will left your server virtually empty... of course if this happen you all will be free to play with the rest of the developers and moderators...
Another great suggestion i saw around was to have a spanish server. this is a good and a bad idea: good cause we'll be able to play without the annoying only english rule, but at the cost of losing the diversity in the actual server which is (believe it or not) the only thing that makes me come back every day.
kr0n05931 wrote:People look, this should be common knowledge: Why are you playing an ENGLISH game if you don't SPEAK it!?!
Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¡Escucha! Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¿Por quÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â© estÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¡ jugando un videojuego escribe en InglÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â©s, si no habla InglÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â©s? Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¡The Mana World es un videojuego estÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¡ usando la idoma InglÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â©s, estudia comÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â³ hablar InglÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â©s! Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â¡No juego videojuegos estÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â¡n usando la idioma AlÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â©man, porque no sÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â© hablo AlÃƒÆ’Ã‚Â©man!
again, the same user making another stupid point... man, you live in a some EU country, and the rest of us live in the 3Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Âº world. Access to education is not simple and not all of us speak english plus, this is not an "english" game... at least i haven't read that anywhere around here... and please, don't use google to translate anymore. it's a really bad taste idea and it is insulting in some way.
In here there just a few persons who has a right to call other people stupid (see the team section). You are not one of them, so behave.
Hugs and kisses.
Your auntie Platyna.
Crush wrote:I would like to see large non-english TMW communities creating their own localized servers. Everything you need can be found online.
maybe.. except for the money to pay for hosting it... we still dont have 20Mbit DSL service here...
I understand that English isn't taught in all countries, but who said that the developers all spoke English as their native language? Crush, Bjorn, Modanung, Platyna, and Katze don't speak English as their primary language. In fact, most of our community members speak English as their second language. Life is not fair. The Mana World is not a democracy. If you have a problem go make a Spanish server, forum, or fork. English has 1,800,000,000 speakers, I think we can manage.
Deal with it and get on with your lives, because it only gets worse from here. The developers plan on making quests require a VERY high mastery of the English language that a translator won't work for.
Life is not fair, everything is not a democracy, you can't always have your say. Is using
So hard for you? Honestly, if you can't memorize just one
English word for a player command, then you are pretty pathetic.
this is the total zenith of stupidity. Please, next time, at least have the decency of putting a banner saying clearly "WE DON?T WONT NON ENGLISH SPEAKERS IN THIS GAME"
and im sorry to say it this way, because i think will harm the non english speakers cause, but you are my sweet heart, or at least you act like one pretty good.
viva la resistencia!
BTW, Elanor my wife's character (who doesn't speak english) is very angry about this too...