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Post by HaLLanHype » Wed Jan 18, 2006 7:20 pm

those arent the 3 base colors...

red, yellow and blue are

they can be mixed to make any color under the sun...

red+yellow = orange
yellow + blue = green

and so on
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Post by Modanung » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:11 pm

That's substractive colour mixing, that's with paint. Then the base colours are blue/cyan, magenta and yellow (and black & white for paint).
We're talking light here. Monitors/computers work with additive colour mixing. The base colours of light are red, green and blue.

Here's some links for ya:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_theory
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Additive_color
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtractive_color
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Post by Crush » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:53 pm

HaLLanHype wrote:those arent the 3 base colors...

red, yellow and blue are
omg, that statement is so ungeeky. i bet the next thing you say is that 256 is not a round number.
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Post by Adarias » Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:46 pm

traditional knowledge comes in handy, but not in this case



though with subtractive you are working with pigments that arent necessarily CMYK ink lol. You cant print bright red with CMYK, but somehow my apple still is, whats up with that? lol.
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Post by Modanung » Wed Jan 18, 2006 11:59 pm

Adarias wrote:though with subtractive you are working with pigments that arent necessarily CMYK ink lol. You cant print bright red with CMYK, but somehow my apple still is, whats up with that? lol.
Magenta and yellow makes bright red. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Subt ... Mixing.png
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Post by Adarias » Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:50 am

and when you can print that color using CMYK inks ill eat my words ^^
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Post by Modanung » Thu Jan 19, 2006 1:23 am

HaLLanHype did make me think though. Tried something out: mixing the hair colour using substractive mixing. This needs you to draw 5 layers, a negative cyan, negative yellow, negative magenta, negative key and a base layer (to prevent plain white hair). This is a lot less then drawing all possible colors we want in the game, which is currently ten. And it allows a lot more freedom for the players and more variation in their looks.

Here's a screenshot from the xcf file with it's layers. All layers modes, except the bottom one, are set to multiply. The Base layer's mode is set to normal.
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I tried making the colours in Adaria's post on page 6 of this thread using this method:
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I think with some editing of the colour layers they could look even better, because I don't like the highlights enough with some colours. Believe me, this already looks a lot better then colourising.
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Post by HaLLanHype » Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:26 am

ok maybe I dont know colors of computers or whatever but im right as far as normal colors go as in art

and at least it helped out ?
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Post by Modanung » Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:30 pm

HaLLanHype wrote:ok maybe I dont know colors of computers or whatever but im right as far as normal colors go as in art

and at least it helped out ?
Still it's magenta, cyan and yellow. It doesn't work with red and blue. But no matter. :)
And yes, you got me thinking.
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Post by Adarias » Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:10 pm

Wow, i didnt know you could do that with those blendings? those look great!

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Post by Modanung » Fri Jan 20, 2006 2:25 pm

Adarias wrote:Modanung is my new best friend and hero
Now now, don't overreact... you can be my slave though, if you want to. :P
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Post by Matt » Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:15 pm

Modanung wrote:
Adarias wrote:Modanung is my new best friend and hero
Now now, don't overreact... you can be my slave though, if you want to. :P
Ask your master (=me) before you hire new slaves!

Good work :)
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Post by Kineticstorm » Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:48 pm

INCOMING TRANSMISSION:

Hello, I made one more new hairstyle. The color is in light blue for detail. Modanung and/or Adarias can make the colors since they seem to know them better. Here are my hairstyles all together so far:
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The newest one is at the bottom if you haven't figured it out.
Hope you like 'em! :wink:

END OF TRANSMISSION
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Post by Crush » Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:54 pm

i am still missing the good old squaresoft classic: spiky hair hold up by a bandana.

The hairstyle the main chars from Secret of Mana 1 or Chrono Trigger have.
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Post by Kineticstorm » Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:00 pm

Haha, yeah, I want to make that hairstyle next. :P

Last time I attempted to make that hairstyle (which was long ago) it came out totally wrong from what I wanted (I wasn't sure if I should have included the bandana with the hair or not). I forgot all about it until now.
Thanks for the reminder. :wink:
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