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[GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 11 Apr 2009, 20:15
by Wombat
GM Review Re: [BAN] MItsu
rodrigo14 wrote:
Ðamis™ wrote:There is none, and this is not a discussion forum. Remember that.

~Damis
I think ban for botting GM need post screenshot I'm wrong?
It is not a necessity for GMs to report screenshots, but without screenshots many players feel uncomfortable with a GM's decision, as in this case. I prefer to see screenshots for bans as well.

Re: [GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 11 Apr 2009, 20:17
by Goku
Skull_Master's ban also had no screenshot.

Re: [GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 11 Apr 2009, 20:33
by Armadeus
You should be able to trust an administrator/Game master/any other type of staff.

@Goku Check the "Signature Fix-Up" Topic.

Re: [GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 11 Apr 2009, 21:24
by Wombat
I prefer to remain skeptical Damis. GMs have earned trust to gain their position, but that doesn't mean they stopped being human. This isn't an attempt at hostility with the GMs or to create a lack of "trust". This is a review of a ban without a screenshot where players can give opinions and perhaps our feedback can help the GMs. I don't think anyone has been maliciously banned from the game, if that means anything to you.

Also, because we (players) can't comment in the Court House, these types of threads are welcome here so players can discuss anything in the Court House without interference.

Re: [GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 11 Apr 2009, 21:37
by Armadeus
Katze wrote:We don't need to provide screenshots. They are just a nice extra - nothing more. They don't prove anything
As Katze said, the GM's shouldn't have to provide screenshots, they should be well trusted.

Re: [GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 11 Apr 2009, 21:47
by Wombat
Damis, unlike you, I am not an unthinking automaton. I'm done with you.

Re: [GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 11 Apr 2009, 21:48
by Armadeus
Alright, be gone. :roll:

Re: [GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 12 Apr 2009, 01:29
by Jaxad0127
Screenshots can be faked anyways.

Re: [GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 12 Apr 2009, 02:12
by Wombat
For the GM's own bot reports? :shock: That would be both sad and interesting. I still prefer the potential of a big fix over no picture. A player banned with a fixed picture would probably throw a stink.

Re: [GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 13 Apr 2009, 16:22
by Katze
I also prefere to be able to provide screenshots.
Yet, there are cases in which I can't do that out of stupid reasons like a different keyboard for example. :P

Skull_Master and Mitsu were standing at the same spot botting and they are one person. That meant they came into the same situation of me not being familiar with a keyboard.

Next time I'll know where the key is. :P

Re: [GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 13 Apr 2009, 16:44
by Wombat
Thank you Katze :D

Re: [GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 13 Apr 2009, 19:50
by Jumpy
it seems to me that, since the special isolation room is used (as MK nearly always do it), they cannot be any way to discuss a ban for botting no ?

and what if you say to people that when you get afk you just have to sit by the side instead of being still on the spot ?

Regards

Re: [GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 13 Apr 2009, 20:34
by Katze
We spawn monsters on the botcheck map and often also elsewhere. So we see if someone is just standing there or actually botting. I don't see the need to tell people to sit down when they're away for that reason.

And people can always prevent being banned by reacting in any way within the set time limit. No matter where they are.

Re: [GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 13 Apr 2009, 20:38
by Goku
So you wouldn't get banned for just standing in a pile of people botting? Or attacking normally?

Re: [GM Review] Re: [BAN] MItsu

Posted: 14 Apr 2009, 11:09
by Jumpy
and what if you are not interested in the drops ? :) joke

i know perfectley honest people not botting that don't take any of the dropped items... and just take the xp

if you don't show up they won't moove