I am allowed to moan, too

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knulfine
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I am allowed to moan, too

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I play this game since about 10 weeks now. So I could see how things are going, how things are dealt with. Everything's all right for me. For me! I like it here. I wanna help to improve the game. Well atm I don't really know how so I started my helper-project. But there are three things I noticed and I really really have to tell you because if I don't I will burst someday ;)

First I have to say. This is an onlineGAME. And sometimes people stop playing games. So what? Live goes on. It's very nice, when some of the people say good bye and tell their reasons but why do people start to discuss this every time. Why can't you only say "bye, I will miss you" or something like that. And people who didn't like the player who's leaving just keep away from their "good bye threads".
So what's the problem?

The second thing is:
Since a few weeks some people are going mad and I can't understand why. I didn't see a bad change in game. there was a release, which i liked. Everytime I have a problem with the game I get answers and help ingame or in the irc. So I see just improvement at the moment, so why are so many people grumbling and moaning about many things? Is everything so good you have too look for problems?? Why can't you just take the game as it is? And when you don't like it, for heavens sake stop playing, but don't moan the whole time. I get sick of it and for sure am not the only one who get's.

The third thing is:
About bjorn or/and platyna. I was thinking about this some time (if I can write this here) so don't get this wrong. I don't know what happened with you two, and to be honest it is not my business so I don't wanna know. But as I have an own forum and am moderator in a chat, I know that team-intern conflicts may not be shown to the community. But here it was and in my humble opinion it was not ok. Just take it as an advice for the future? I know that was about two weeks ago but I had to think about it often.

Now everyone
feel free to tar and feather me for the things I said.

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Post by Hexy »

A good post my knulfi ;)

I dont see that much trouble... as some ppl say.. this game don't go to hell... with actualy more than 100 player online, and there were some weeks ago less. So the Game has no Problem.

Some older Player have maybee... but maybee the onley true problem is the always repeating one. its about ppl, letting things be what they did a long time "intensively" and... and they need a reason that not comes from their minds herself to have an "extern" excuse to leave things behind. A nice effect of hanging on to a thing.... If you want to free your self of it, you must suggest its bad, or it is now different, worth than in the beginning, when you "tasted" it first time.

Another interesting effect in my eyes is. If you play a game a long time you get bored to find new Friends... or you just have no time to get new ones because you get a lot of /w and other activies if you go online. So you stay in your "small" group of ppl you formed around you. This group gets older, ppl go, and suddenly a feeling of beeing alone comes up... beeing alone with 100 others at the same time, but than you still can say... all of the ppl are bad that come here since a while... ;)

I have been some years in browser and mmorpg games, and i can say there is a 5% or so who dont complain if they go away (of the part who think they need to tell it to the comunity). the rest "helps himself" with complaining to make the break for themselves easyer. They dont see that they make nervious some others with this, and they have no open bad intention. Its just to make their own step in the live easyer.. nothing more.. nothing less.

Again.. The game goes good as far i see.. I see good GM's (im still not so involved to see who gets banned, and who not... if there is made a difference for real ;) )... i see a nice quiet but going forward forum with good ideas of making a Game better. I see a good update, what still is bit bugy but thats just a metter of time to get fixed. I see the typical comunity with some rowdys, some nice, some loud and some quiet... nothing to be worried for ;)

The last point, of controling "Leadertrouble" intern... To not let take part the com at discussions let them "sleep better" but may they have a right to get informed about the "general status"... idk... its the choice of the Chiefs here how to make it.

That was a general post and not is to get together with anyone personaly who went here or in other games. its my experience after about just 4 years onlinegaming, and may im wrong! I talk about this onley because the post of knulf i liked to answer because he looks worried, and without reason in my eyes.
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Hexy and Hexy's Mom

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Post by Starlite »

My dear Knulfire!

Some people can take changes, and some can not
This is just a fact of life.

We all do move on, for better or worse, to new and hopefully, greater things!
(I won't take any responsibility for any of their reasons, since I don't know them, and they don't know me)

I can, however, see their needs to make a statement, to say "goodbye", if you wish. That is important, it has meaning. Leaving without a word has none.

You are going to be greatly missed, I have heard enough about you all to know that much.

Hails to you!!!

Thanks to all of you!

I am positive that you have done your best to improve and help the Mana that I so enjoy today!!

I am sure that Mana wouldn't be what it is today, without you!
(and the rest, that sort of goes without saying! =) )

I know for a fact that you are all going to be missed, I have heard that so many times from people that DO know you!

I'm only sorry that I haven't been around long enought to get to know you better!

Regards

Ztarly
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uhm... ??? Ztarly???
I'm not leaving...
I just wanted to say these things. And it's not all about people who leave.
... ? *thinking*
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