InspectorShameless = Uber_Kalimero

[kr0n05931]

After reading through topics in which both InspectorShameless and Uber_Kalimero have participated, I have come to the conclusion that InspectorShameless and Uber_Kalimero are indeed the same person. I believe this because of the large amount of "cross-posting" between the two accounts. By "cross-posting", I mean the scenario when InspectorShameless replies to something directed at Uber_Kalimero, and vice versa.

The jig is up on your troll account, Uber_Kalimero. Go home now, kthxbai.


By the way, the former account, "Dora L'exploratrice" was also one of Uber_Kalimero's troll accounts.



I would like to ask the moderators, Platyna, or Bjørn to please delete the "InspectorShameless" account, as its sole purpose was to be a troll and abuse other members on the forums. I would also like to request that Uber_Kalimero be penalized in some form.

[Wombat]

[2009-07-06 20:33:03] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @t Uberkalimero, i want to confirm with you that you are infact Inspector Shameless am i correct
[2009-07-06 20:33:28] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @l uber acknowledges and confirms
[2009-07-06 20:35:19] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @t uber, inspector shameless has crossed the line on the forums, and several complaints have been received
[2009-07-06 20:37:50] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @t uber i understand that politics do not belong in the forum, and that is being dealt with separately
[2009-07-06 20:38:38] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @t uber you need to tread carefully, racism doesnt belong there either
[2009-07-06 20:39:38] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @l Uber is defending his position
[2009-07-06 20:40:08] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @t uberkalimero we are all a team, some more then others
[2009-07-06 20:41:11] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @t uber i am asking nicely that you refrain from the type of comments you made with regards to the Iranian situation.
[2009-07-06 20:41:33] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @t uber insulting me gets you no where
[2009-07-06 20:45:02] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @t uber you crossed the line
[2009-07-06 20:46:09] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @t uber whether i agree or not with the politics is irrevelant
[2009-07-06 20:46:31] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @t uber the fact remains you cannot make those comments publically and expect not to be chastised
[2009-07-06 20:47:33] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @t the rules clearly state do not abuse other players, and name calling and insults is abuse.
[2009-07-06 20:48:30] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @l uber is stating that Khronos is promoting ideas and politics this is why he does what he does
[2009-07-06 20:49:15] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @t uber the problem is that you openly and outwardly insulted someone directly.....PERIOD
[2009-07-06 20:53:32] 013-3.gat(28,32) Delasia : @t Uber you know of what I speak. the "Green wear for Iran"

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Even though I find Inspector Shameless highly annoying, her stepping in here is not part of her role. Delasia is not the GM over the forum.

I'm posting this here because Uber was already exposed by Delasia in the GM log.

[peavey]

Even though I find Inspector Shameless highly annoying, her stepping in here is not part of her role. Delasia is not the GM over the forum.

You do not dictate the role of our GMs.

[Wombat]

Wasn't dictating the GM's role. I'm using the basis of the rules offered. If GMs can act on their whims without posting any rules updates, how can we tell if they are abusing their role?

[The Brao]

You do not dictate the role of our GMs.

GMs are not forum moderators. All is in the wiki :

The Game Masters are resposible for upholding the game rules. They can be identified by the red cap reading "GM". They are normal players who are selected by the developers because of their good reputation in the player community. When a game master witnesses someone breaking a game rule they can ban a player from the game and reset his/her character level. When a game masters punishes a player he/she will post the reason in the Court House forum.

Also forum issues should be solved in the forum and not in game.

Wombat, finaly you were right, i understand now that the ignore function should solve most of those kind of "abuse" issues (especially those ones which are reported in the court house, or worst, in the player talk like this).

I will now refere to this topic (because it seems this "war" began with it -- interesting for a peace-based topic).
To khrono :
*When i interfered in this "debate" (because in my opinion there was a kind of "debate"), I was trying to get it in a more reasonable way. It was ofcourse doomed to failure (and actually i realised that i just "fed the troll", my mistake). You answered me with the same agressive tone. It's useless to say i did'nt appreciate that. But i said nothing and pass trough it. A thing you were unable to do with Uber=Inspector. You kept on feeding the troll (instead of ignoring him, like you said you would do).
*You have tried to own Uber=Inspector by making troll posts (indeed, YOU were obviously trolling) in other threads (sometimes without any reason). Check these out :
http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopi ... 80&start=2
http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopi ... 78&start=6
http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopi ... 78&start=6
(plus this very one)
And it seems that... you failed .
*Finaly Uber had a little conversation with GMs (even if it's not their role to do it) about one week ago, and (i hope he) understood that this forum isn't his playground.
You won. Battle ended. Now leave it and don't "piss us off" with that story again.

I'm not doing some french-to-french or friend-to-friend support, and i'm not another UberKalimero troll acount (remember : check my IP, I'm not hiding behind proxies). I'm just bored with all this useless and ridiculus reports. This issue has already been solved, no need to report it again and again.

[Matt]

Who Duck cares?

[kr0n05931]

You do not dictate the role of our GMs.

GMs are not forum moderators. All is in the wiki :

The Game Masters are resposible for upholding the game rules. They can be identified by the red cap reading "GM". They are normal players who are selected by the developers because of their good reputation in the player community. When a game master witnesses someone breaking a game rule they can ban a player from the game and reset his/her character level. When a game masters punishes a player he/she will post the reason in the Court House forum.

Also forum issues should be solved in the forum and not in game.

The wiki also says that Mana Points aren't used in the game yet. I suppose that we should scrap the magic system just because the wiki says so? Remember that the wiki is community edited. I could put anything that I want up there, but that doesn't make it official. Indeed, the true role of the GM team is Platyna's decision and no one else's.

Wombat, finaly you were right, i understand now that the ignore function should solve most of those kind of "abuse" issues (especially those ones which are reported in the court house, or worst, in the player talk like this).

I wish the ignore function actually made the posts disappear. It's much too tempting to click the "view post" button.

*When i interfered in this "debate" (because in my opinion there was a kind of "debate"), I was trying to get it in a more reasonable way. It was ofcourse doomed to failure (and actually i realised that i just "fed the troll", my mistake). You answered me with the same agressive tone. It's useless to say i did'nt appreciate that.

With the 3 accounts he used in that topic previously, I couldn't really trust anyone. Hence the anger being redirected towards you.

*You have tried to own Uber=Inspector by making troll posts (indeed, YOU were obviously trolling) in other threads (sometimes without any reason). Check these out :
http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopi ... 80&start=2
http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopi ... 78&start=6
http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopi ... 78&start=6
(plus this very one)

I tend to go by the IRC policy of: "Garbage in, garbage out."

*Finaly Uber had a little conversation with GMs (even if it's not their role to do it) about one week ago, and (i hope he) understood that this forum isn't his playground.
You won. Battle ended. Now leave it and don't "piss us off" with that story again.

Well, excuse me for not knowing that the GM logs were available to the public.

I'm not doing some french-to-french or friend-to-friend support, and i'm not another UberKalimero troll acount (remember : check my IP, I'm not hiding behind proxies). I'm just bored with all this useless and ridiculus reports.

I still suspect that you are one. I don't need an IP address to tell me that someone is someone else. You've gotten pretty heated when I've talked about Uber_Kalimero/InspectorShameless in other threads. The same cross-posting that got Uber_Kalimero under the radar. You're also from France, and started getting active around the same time that Uber_Kalimero trolled the "Please Wear Green" topic. Interesting.

Perhaps you are yet another clone of our schizophrenic squid?

This issue has already been solved, no need to report it again and again.

The entire purpose of this topic was to warn other users that the two people trolling posts were indeed the same person. I made this topic so that other users wouldn't feel put off because they were being group trolled. Also, again, I did not know that Uber_Kalimero was talked to about the particular incident. Doorsman and Vink never replied to my PMs, and Bjørn wrote back saying, "I'll look into it after work".

I'm requesting that the InspectorShameless account be locked because of precedent. In the game, several accounts have been erased because their sole purpose was to troll and abuse other players.

[The Brao]

Well, excuse me for not knowing that the GM logs were available to the public.

Neither do I. I was not refering to GM logs, but to this topic, please read doorsman's post (that was on your own request).
I agree that the wiki is community edited. But I've seen that this page is sometimes used by GMs to explain who they are. That's the only place where GM role is stated, sorry for believing what's written.

Concerning my identity, I will not justify myself. Your are in your right to not believe me. And actually, i don't care.

One last time : i'm not supporting UberKalimero, i think that what he did was stupid, unnecessary and clearly abusive. I'm not supporting you neither, since this issue was already solved (and "eye for an eye" or "garbage in/out" policy justify nothing).
I think all is well now.

It's much too tempting to click the "view post" button.

Indeed

[Jaxad0127]

I agree that the wiki is community edited. But I've seen that this page is sometimes used by GMs to explain who they are. That's the only place where GM role is stated, sorry for believing what's written.

The wiki can only be edited by registered users. And edit logs are public, so you can see who has added information.

[Vink]

Vink never replied to my PMs

You have not sent me any PM as far as I can see. Maybe you sent it to someone else?

[InspectorShameless]

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[kr0n05931]

I found this post during my summer-holidays back-home travel ...

@Kr0n0s : Treating Insurgents during their vacations is unfair, and asking for their accounts deletion is even worse ... Just try to ignore them ?

~ " If you can't beat enjoy them ... " ~
~ " I'd rather ring the Liberty Bell again ! " ~

@Matt : I really love your style, will you marry me ?

As I stated before, when accounts in the game were made simply to abuse another player, they were banned/deleted.

Why not do the same here?

Sorry, but "ignoring" someone on the forums doesn't work as well as it does in game. A message in game is temporary and not for all to see. A message on a forum is permanent, and can spark flame wars in the future.

Regardless, you were trolling, and this troll account should be deleted. I know your type, and despite being told by the moderators to stop, you're just going to do it again when the heat dies down.

[InspectorShameless]

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[kr0n05931]

I think this post to perfectly demonstrate your vision of the forum to most users : nothing worth to be added from me ...

Just like I said, you're still at it, even though you've been told not to troll.

[Matt]

InspectorShameless can't be Uber_Kalimero because InspectorShameless is Platynas and mine troll account! I can say this now cause I don't live in poland anymore.