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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by 4144 » 22 Mar 2010, 22:16

Thanks for report.
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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by Dark_Mag » 24 Mar 2010, 13:48

4144: I decided to develop your WEB-page. Try this one, I hope you love it.

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<html>
<head><title>4144 patch</title></head>
<body bgcolor="aliceblue">
<link rel="icon" type="image/png" href="http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4633/4144.png" />
<p>
<center><p><font size="5" color="camel"><b>4144 WEB-page</b></p></p>
<p>
<p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p>
<p>
<p>

<table height="180" width="240" align="left" border="8">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td><a href="http://tmw.cetki.com/official/client/"><img alt="" src="http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8093/offmorror.png" align="left" /></a><br />
<br /><a href="http://tmw.cetki.com/official/updates/"><img alt="" src="http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3996/offupdatesmirror.png" align="left" /></a><br />
<br /><a href="http://tmw.cetki.com/4144/"><img alt="" src="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7113/4144updates.png" align="left" /></a><br />
</td></tr></tbody></table><strong></strong></p></p></p>
<font size="3" color="black"><b0>You can have a lot of fun with patch. You should only download & install it.<b0><br>
Almost every player of TMW use patch 4144. Maybe you'll be with them..?<br>
If you have some problems with patch, contact me on forum...<br>
<font size="5">XD
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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by Crush » 24 Mar 2010, 16:05

Dark_Mag, your way of writing HTML code is pretty outdated. I would recommend you to search for a HTML tutorial which follows the HTML 4.01 specifications (published in 1999).
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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by Bertram » 24 Mar 2010, 17:11

Hmm,

Maybe Dark_Mag didn't want to get through the whole validation process for a simple proposal?
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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by Matt » 24 Mar 2010, 19:29

I prefer his existing website: http://tmw.cetki.com/4144/

BTW, why does his patch not get mainline If it is so popular with the noobs?
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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by Crush » 24 Mar 2010, 20:11

Matt wrote:BTW, why does his patch not get mainline If it is so popular with the noobs?
I guess you are trolling, but I am quite sure there are some people who are asking themself this question seriously.

1. The Manasource projects goal is to create a client which can be used on many different game world. A lot of features of the 4144 client are highly specific to TMW.
2. The modifications are targeted at advanced players. A lot of changes make the client very hard to understand for new players. Take the abbreviated button texts in the main bar, for example. Would you understand what button does what when you never played TMW before? And what exactly does "D3D73NI" in the status bar mean? The TMW client should be accessible to new players.
3. Some features are just gimmicks which are funny when only you have them but nonsensical when everyone has them, like the crazy walk feature.
4. Some features in the 4144 client look good from the outside, but the implementation "under the hood" could be done in a much better way to ensure long-term flexibility and maintainability.

Don't get me wrong. Not everything is bad with this patch. There are still a lot of interesting features. We already took some of them as inspiration for the mainline client. You should also know that 4144 (aka "{41444d494e}") is a frequent visitor of our development IRC channel and is working together with us at the mainline client.

In my opinion the 4144 client is an experimental client where a lot of stuff can be tried without having to take care about the long-term consequences for the main code base. And like everytime when you are experimenting there are experiments with good results, with bad results or with results which are neither good nor bad but still interesting. But in the end you can learn from every experiment, regardless of the outcome.
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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by Matt » 24 Mar 2010, 20:15

Well since I never played his patch my question was serious, but even If I was trolling I guess I was successful cause you answered ;)

So his patch is something like an ados patch. (kudos to those who still know what that means :P )
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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by meway » 24 Mar 2010, 21:53

Dark_Mag wrote:4144: I decided to develop your WEB-page. Try this one, I hope you love it.

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<html>
<head><title>4144 patch</title></head>
<body bgcolor="aliceblue">
<link rel="icon" type="image/png" href="http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/4633/4144.png" />
<p>
<center><p><font size="5" color="camel"><b>4144 WEB-page</b></p></p>
<p>
<p>&nbsp;</p></p>
<p>
<p>
<p>

<table height="180" width="240" align="left" border="8">
<tbody>
<tr>
<td><a href="http://tmw.cetki.com/official/client/"><img alt="" src="http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8093/offmorror.png" align="left" /></a><br />
<br /><a href="http://tmw.cetki.com/official/updates/"><img alt="" src="http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/3996/offupdatesmirror.png" align="left" /></a><br />
<br /><a href="http://tmw.cetki.com/4144/"><img alt="" src="http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/7113/4144updates.png" align="left" /></a><br />
</td></tr></tbody></table><strong></strong></p></p></p>
<font size="3" color="black"><b0>You can have a lot of fun with patch. You should only download & install it.<b0><br>
Almost every player of TMW use patch 4144. Maybe you'll be with them..?<br>
If you have some problems with patch, contact me on forum...<br>
<font size="5">XD
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did you copy the source from my meway2.ath.cx wich has been updated a little since than.
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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by Dark_Mag » 25 Mar 2010, 02:43

Matt wrote:I prefer his existing website: http://tmw.cetki.com/4144/

BTW, why does his patch not get mainline If it is so popular with the noobs?
You're right, but at first look here: http://tmw.cetki.com/
meway wrote:did you copy the source from my meway2.ath.cx wich has been updated a little since than.
Ya, you're right. But only table function.
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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by Dark_Mag » 25 Mar 2010, 02:46

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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by Ceros » 25 Mar 2010, 06:28

If you're going to use a screen shot on that abomination of a website, you might want a mock-up that demonstrates feature set

http://www.hotelsurvivalguide.com/guide_key.jpg etc (older version, circa Dec 2009)
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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by Dark_Mag » 27 Mar 2010, 15:40

I made new site based on 4144's. http://page-4144.narod.ru/index.htm







Copyrights 2010. 4144 let me to make this site.
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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by lien » 27 Mar 2010, 17:47

Dark_Mag
maybe,
you should use javascript for a best web design or something else
example with on roll over / out on press on relase
sorry for the pictures :mrgreen:
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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by i » 27 Mar 2010, 19:29

Dark_Mag would you be so nice and die in car accident again?
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Re: TMW Client Patch

Post by lien » 28 Mar 2010, 11:03

[color=#FFBF00]i[/color] wrote:Dark_Mag would you be so nice and die in car accident again?
why you want the people die ?
and stop Trolling :lol: !
the death isn't funnny .
the accident car also .
and you turn this topic to off topic .
please stop .
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