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Own IRC server?
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 10:59
by Platyna
I may setup an IRC server on Platinum, as many people on #themanaworld on freenode suggested and are willing to connect.
Maybe we could have some webchat connecting to it?
Which kind of ircd you would fit more suitable TMW needs? Current TMW management would get approriate oper permissions.
Elven, can you do irc.themanaworld.org domain poiting to IP 81.161.192.4?
Regards.
Re: Own IRC server?
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 12:22
by Crush
Why shouldn't we stay on freenode? Just because you have a personal vendetta with a freenode admin?
Re: Own IRC server?
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 12:45
by Platyna
I was on freenode only because of #themanaworld, the lag, flooding clones and ddoses doesn't make that network a friendly environment, the admins who likes to bofh around by breaking their own rules are the side effect. ;-)
Regards.
Re: Own IRC server?
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 17:26
by Matt
Crush wrote:Why shouldn't we stay on freenode? Just because you have a personal vendetta with a freenode admin?
What he said.
Re: Own IRC server?
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 21:31
by Rotonen
I've yet to see the IRC network which does significantly better.
Even that said, QNet seems to have the most experience with dealing with idiots. Their solutions seem rather refined, but they are not fool-proof either.
Re: Own IRC server?
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 22:16
by Platyna
In fact most of networks, even IRCNet handled the problems Freenode seems to be unable to handle.
Regards.
Re: Own IRC server?
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 22:39
by Turmfalke
the problem I see that in case of the next bigger ddos against platinum we wouldn't even have a irc channel in which we could discuss the attack.(Single Point of Failure)
Re: Own IRC server?
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 22:45
by Platyna
1. Isn't Freenode constantly ddosed? They made a lot enemies, especially from those like me (sysadmins and programmers).
2. Not to mention we can link another server, e.g. located on Bjorn's host.
3. We got a new uplink with a lot better security.
Regards.
Re: Own IRC server?
Posted: 02 Nov 2009, 22:55
by Habari
I VOTE YES!!!
TMW must be independent in all senses!!!
we cant relay on third party services.
Re: Own IRC server?
Posted: 03 Nov 2009, 11:24
by Turmfalke
Platyna wrote:1. Isn't Freenode constantly ddosed? They made a lot enemies, especially from those like me (sysadmins and programmers).
I hope you don't ddos Freenode

also I can't rember Freenod being down due to a ddos.
Platyna wrote:
2. Not to mention we can link another server, e.g. located on Bjorn's host.
sounds good, but service bots would still be from one server or?
Platyna wrote:
3. We got a new uplink with a lot better security.
sounds even better
Something which would be nice to integrate if we should move to a own irc server would be a shared db between tmwweb/tmwserv(manaweb/manaserv) and the irc network.
Re: Own IRC server?
Posted: 03 Nov 2009, 11:49
by Platyna
No idea about services. But in case of something went wrong we can live a few hours without them.
Regards.
Re: Own IRC server?
Posted: 03 Nov 2009, 16:37
by Matt
Yeah lets just replace Freenode with all its servers against 2 servers which never were down...
Re: Own IRC server?
Posted: 03 Nov 2009, 16:57
by Black Don
I like the fact that IRC is separate from TMW because it makes it rare that they are "ddos"ed at the same time.
Re: Own IRC server?
Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 12:07
by Neon
If you are beeng attacked cause of WHAT you are,jumping around wont help much.
If you are beeng attacked cause of WHERE you are,thats just the thing.
just my 2 cent

Re: Own IRC server?
Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 13:31
by zyperz
Platyna wrote:I was on freenode only because of #themanaworld, the lag, flooding clones and ddoses doesn't make that network a friendly environment, the admins who likes to bofh around by breaking their own rules are the side effect.
Regards.
Well this seems to be an ongoing problem. By this definition, TMW (the game) would have a similar label.
Thank you for explaining why so many others have taken to task their own servers.