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About GMs (no flame war please!)

Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 16:11
by Leela
Hi there

Some points that I would like to discuss

-> New GMs
-> "Old" GMs
-> becoming GM
-> GM on duty or not


Please try not to mention names, I will not. This thread shall be as objective as somehow possible.

So let's start:

-> New GMs:
During the last nearly eight months I am playing here, I saw GMs coming and going. Every GM that came to the team freshly got mobbed bad. Why is that so? Jealous?
Someone becomes GM and then the mocking starts. Testing out the GM. "look I spam, look I spam, look I spam" "Ich spreche vor einem GM eine andere Sprache, mal sehen ob ich gebannt werde"(I'm talking a foreign language in front of a GM, let's see if I get banned), "Hey new GM you are a fraud, stupid, ugly and worse then any GM I ever saw, piss off, die"
So what is it about? If you don't like a GM, talk to another, we have enough.

-> "Old" GMs:
GMs that were longer here are strangely enough liked by players. So when did the change in mind happen? Is it about this: "He didn't fall on me mocking so I like him". People try to become friends with them just to get some credit. To say to friends "look I am hanging around with GM xy" They do their duty and everything they do is wrong. How comes that? They just try to enforce the rules, that's what they are here for. Ingame police if you wanna call it that.

-> becoming GM:
My favourite. People walking around ingame (I saw that so often), "I am so good, I should be a GM because I help so many people and know so much about the game". Posting topics here to apply. What the hell? Just wait. If you are good as GM someone (I guess Platyna) will get in contact with you.

-> GM on duty or not:
A GM in my opinion doesn't have to be on duty the whole time. A GM is in this game for the same reason you are. To have fun, to play, to get in contact with people. You see the GM is on duty when he's wearing his GM-stuff. Otherwise use @wgm message if you need help. You can't expect a GM to be on duty the whole time. Where is the fun playing this game if he is? (Don't you go home after your job is done?)

Something else:
My own experience in this field is similar to what I wrote and that's why I actually opened this topic. I am Mod in a community and Adm in another. As I got Mod in that community I experienced exactly what I saw here on new GMs.
No this is no boot licking. I am just annoyed by the unfair behaviour of some people here. I am not heading for GM by writing this topic, in fact I don't wanna be a GM at all. I don't need or want special treatment and I am not heading for this either. The only GM I am friend with was my friend before he became GM. So no apple polishing from my side.

I repeat: Please no flame war, please no names. Try to be as objective as you can be.

cu ingame
Leela

Re: About GMs (no flame war please!)

Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 19:01
by MoneyX
For those who don't want to read it because it's too long i'll summarize it for you..

"I want to be a GM"

Re: About GMs (no flame war please!)

Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 19:09
by Leela
No I don't and I wrote that clearly.
I am not heading for GM by writing this topic, in fact I don't wanna be a GM at all.
but thanks for the comment

Re: About GMs (no flame war please!)

Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 19:33
by Kill3rZ
MoneyX wrote:For those who don't want to read it because it's too long i'll summarize it for you..

"I want to be a GM"
Yes, that's exactly what she means since being GM is such a bliss. It's really easy and nice, it makes you really popular and it's completely worth the effort.

Later edit: that was sarcasm, BTW

Re: About GMs (no flame war please!)

Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 23:19
by MoneyX
Leela wrote:No I don't and I wrote that clearly.
I am not heading for GM by writing this topic, in fact I don't wanna be a GM at all.
but thanks for the comment
NOOOOOOOO, how did I miss that?

Let me add some notes to my summary. (Just like anyone else wanting to be a GM they will claim that they don't, pretend to write out how they feel (like anyone cares?), and then pray and hope that they become GM so they can abuse their powers more than the previous GM's have)

Better?

Re: About GMs (no flame war please!)

Posted: 04 Nov 2009, 23:20
by MoneyX
Kill3rZ wrote:
MoneyX wrote:For those who don't want to read it because it's too long i'll summarize it for you..

"I want to be a GM"
Yes, that's exactly what she means since being GM is such a bliss. It's really easy and nice, it makes you really popular and it's completely worth the effort.

Later edit: that was sarcasm, BTW
Yet another sad attempt of a person claiming being a GM is hard and that they wouldn't want to be one when in reality they would suck a **** to become one.

Re: About GMs (no flame war please!)

Posted: 05 Nov 2009, 01:50
by Platyna
Leela wrote:Hi there

Some points that I would like to discuss

-> New GMs
-> "Old" GMs
-> becoming GM
-> GM on duty or not


Please try not to mention names, I will not. This thread shall be as objective as somehow possible.

So let's start:

-> New GMs:
During the last nearly eight months I am playing here, I saw GMs coming and going. Every GM that came to the team freshly got mobbed bad. Why is that so? Jealous?
Someone becomes GM and then the mocking starts. Testing out the GM. "look I spam, look I spam, look I spam" "Ich spreche vor einem GM eine andere Sprache, mal sehen ob ich gebannt werde"(I'm talking a foreign language in front of a GM, let's see if I get banned), "Hey new GM you are a fraud, stupid, ugly and worse then any GM I ever saw, piss off, die"
So what is it about? If you don't like a GM, talk to another, we have enough.
I have noticed it, and this is not acceptable. But understandable - it is natural reaction towards some problems that were occurring frequently among the community. I believe with some work it will vanish and GMs will be again considered friends and animators of the community.
-> "Old" GMs:
GMs that were longer here are strangely enough liked by players. So when did the change in mind happen? Is it about this: "He didn't fall on me mocking so I like him". People try to become friends with them just to get some credit. To say to friends "look I am hanging around with GM xy" They do their duty and everything they do is wrong. How comes that? They just try to enforce the rules, that's what they are here for. Ingame police if you wanna call it that.
This is what people always try. This is human nature, I believe. However GMs having too strong relations with the players (read: acting according their acquaint will) will be dismissed.
-> becoming GM:
My favourite. People walking around ingame (I saw that so often), "I am so good, I should be a GM because I help so many people and know so much about the game". Posting topics here to apply. What the hell? Just wait. If you are good as GM someone (I guess Platyna) will get in contact with you.
I am a warrant that this way of achieving the position is not possible. I do chose GMs by observations of their work. Those observations are usually hidden.
-> GM on duty or not:
A GM in my opinion doesn't have to be on duty the whole time. A GM is in this game for the same reason you are. To have fun, to play, to get in contact with people. You see the GM is on duty when he's wearing his GM-stuff. Otherwise use @wgm message if you need help. You can't expect a GM to be on duty the whole time. Where is the fun playing this game if he is? (Don't you go home after your job is done?)
This is unsolved matter till today.
Something else:
My own experience in this field is similar to what I wrote and that's why I actually opened this topic. I am Mod in a community and Adm in another. As I got Mod in that community I experienced exactly what I saw here on new GMs.
No this is no boot licking. I am just annoyed by the unfair behavior of some people here. I am not heading for GM by writing this topic, in fact I don't wanna be a GM at all. I don't need or want special treatment and I am not heading for this either. The only GM I am friend with was my friend before he became GM. So no apple polishing from my side.
This explanation is reduntant.
I repeat: Please no flame war, please no names. Try to be as objective as you can be.
You know very well where it is heading to. I think community is not prepared for objective discussion about GMs.

Regards.

Re: About GMs (no flame war please!)

Posted: 05 Nov 2009, 09:11
by Leela
@MoneyX: okok you win, I want to be a GM, totally, because I have no life in rl and need a third online job.

@Platyna: According to MoneyX I want to ba a GM so please ask me so I can say "no thanks".
And I don't think that you can decide what is reduntant and what not, because for me it was important to make clear that I am not just babbling bulls*** but know what I am talking about. But whatever. Monarchy and the Queen decides. (the last one was irony, for everyone who doesn't know)

cu ingame

Re: About GMs (no flame war please!)

Posted: 05 Nov 2009, 11:04
by Crush
Leela wrote:I repeat: Please no flame war
Leela wrote:I am not just babbling bulls*** but know what I am talking about. But whatever. Monarchy and the Queen decides. (the last one was irony, for everyone who doesn't know)
So much for that.

Re: About GMs (no flame war please!)

Posted: 05 Nov 2009, 12:00
by Leela
you quote only that Crush. Hopefully people don't only read quotes but full posts.

Maybe anyone has something to say ontopic?

Re: About GMs (no flame war please!)

Posted: 05 Nov 2009, 14:58
by Platyna
This thread is pointless.

Regards.