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[Ban] Amarisa

Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 03:12
by Tiana
Character Amarisa showed signs of being a programmed bot. As such that player cannot request a reset.

Re: [Ban] Amarisa

Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 04:19
by Necromokron
Hehe theres me with my LOL spamming. :lol:

Re: [Ban] Amarisa

Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 04:47
by Tiana
Upon review, it has been decided to unban Amarisa. She has been asked to respond more quickly to GM requests in the future.

Re: [Ban] Amarisa

Posted: 13 Jan 2010, 05:59
by confuciousnz
I don't understand the reason for this unban? I was there earlier, before she was banned, and it looked kinda like a bot. But the chat logs screenied in the OP show some pretty clear automated responses, don't they?

Re: [Ban] Amarisa

Posted: 14 Jan 2010, 20:01
by hewhohasalongname
very odd however I believe your last answer was given by the person behind the bot.
seems odd enough to program a bot to give such an answer.

imo, this is a bot 100% and the owner was checking up every now and then, now and then being the last answer and possibly the Five+5 thing, although this may have been automated.

imo you should ask the bot something that's fairly common knowledge however will not be easy to foresee at all
for example rather than a X+Y ask "hi bot-name-here, if I had an apple, and then I gave it to you and then I took it away from you and then I gave it to you again and then I sat down and stood up, how many apples would I have?!"
such a complicated sentence which could obviously come in many forms isn't going to be easy to program at all
also, I have noticed that when the gms do the whole visible invisible bot check they only seem to do it once or twice
maybe you should use this silly check 4 times~
just come over do it, go do your other duties, come back again after 2 minutes redo, repeat, the 3rd or 4th time the bot would be by far too obvious, at that point it seems reasonable to ban without a warning.
while this takes time, it doesn't require any level of english to be used, and so is a lot more fair to players anywhere.

Re: [Ban] Amarisa

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 00:53
by iceslice
:lol: omg, dying laughing......

btw, the bot could detect GM's presence either by color or against a list of names but failed to detect GM's position. Well, what if a GM could change his/her color or name temporarily ? (have some -ve implications tho)

& hewhohasalongname is right, that kind of long question will be difficult to answer by bot.

& I have also found some guys who only buy items & do not sell. What does it imply ?

& I dont see any value of such destructive programming, whoever you are join the dev team & work against bot. You'll have some achievements.

Re: [Ban] Amarisa

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 01:24
by Jaxad0127
GM control of the highlight is something to add, yes, but a bit pointless. Since GMs wear their GM clothing when enforcing the rules, bots can just look for that. They can also look for specific character names.

Re: [Ban] Amarisa

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 02:32
by baseballboy
It can even get as specific as searching for character account number, where if the GM gets on another char. on the same account

Re: [Ban] Amarisa

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 03:25
by iceslice
Literally I couldnt stop laughing.
btw, the botter done a nice piece of string manipulation (parsing).

Well some other questions from GM could be.
1. Look at me.
2. Come towards me.
3. What's the color of the player behind me.
etc.

Re: [Ban] Amarisa

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 03:41
by Kage
The thing about asking those types of questions, is that in time, botters will catch onto those, and will program for them.

IMHO the best option would be to select from a unpredictable number of questions, that vary a lot. And hope none of those will be used often enough to statistically warrant for programming for anyone of the questions in particular cases.

Anyways, this is not a discussion thread. Someone made a topic in Player Talk regarding this topic, please use that.

Re: [Ban] Amarisa

Posted: 15 Jan 2010, 05:54
by CapitanAwesome
Kage wrote: Anyways, this is not a discussion thread. Someone made a topic in Player Talk regarding this topic, please use that.
What he said!

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