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stuff,,,,,may need work...i need sleep..
------------skipy

Nice candles skipy.

I was thinking something more like this for the coffin:

It's not really right i think. I don't know if that's even a good angle or valid perspective. seems wrong for some reason i cant place right now.

It looks flat, but it is an excellent add. A little tweaking and it'll get good

Also, so far it looks like we are progressing quickly. The Arena modifications are a little rough still (which they should be). I'm almost caught up on my content priorities, so I'll start adding my art efforts again once I am caught up. Collaborative efforts on this and other priority [REQ]s are pulling together really good.

the color may not be right...(or just to muddy)....
---------------skipy

Wombat wrote:It looks flat, but it is an excellent add. A little tweaking and it'll get good

Also, so far it looks like we are progressing quickly. The Arena modifications are a little rough still (which they should be).

What do you exactly mean?
There are different things, skipy did it more dirty, I tried to put up without much color change,
so which direction do you want us to go? a dirty crypt, or maybe two levels, where the first level is more like a crypt and the second like a dirty hidden place? or ...? please explain more

sorry that i did not map the last days very stressful weekend.

Pjotr

Edit: @ MerlinX420:

Your wall is 7 tiles high. Thats 3,5 players. IMHO a bit too high for a crypt. Can you cahnge either the heigth? or should there be only one place int wall to put a body?

ok have a look please, if all that fits together?
This is just ground, walls etc.
candles and other decorative stuff will get an extra tileset I propose

argul wrote:@MerlinX420:
I like this Wall with the bodies inside very much MerlinX420.
I would say: Keep up the good work. But which floor do you like to have with it?
Maybe we this floor from the arena tileset fits, but has to be recolored to be darker.
So that it fits to your basement fo the wall

@skipy:
If you look at the crypt from outside, would you expect such a dirty inside?
IIMHO in the crypt it is cleaner, more the wy MerlinX420 did the walls.
Since I don't know the plans for the whole map, I would propose that you work fits good for the chamber of the grim reaper.
This chamber could be located behind a hidden door in the crypt (I mean its another level deeper inside, below the crypt.)
Edit: The candles look nice, just seen now Oo.

So I would try to develop in different ways.
I just don't know in which direction I should go?

How do I create candles with shimmering light? I mean how to make a moving tileset? Or will this shimmer-effect be put there afterwards?

Pjotr

....disregard the tiles i did...(there not that good)..MerlinX420 is doing a grate job (imo)...
im working on stuff to put about (candles,bones,wall hangings,coffins and so on)....a bigger list of what we need in there for random stuff...is needed(imo)...
the cave floor may work ok...work better if there was a bricks here and there....
the walls i have seen up to 30-40 feet or taller in pic,s of crypts i have seen on-line.......

as far as whats going on....well ,i have no clue other then what you know....im sure Wombat has a good plan ..
also im sure he is vary bizy pulling all of this together...he knows what hes doing
all i can do is post what i make and share ideas..and hope for the best....you should ask Wombat for info if you really need to...

""How do I create candles with shimmering light? I mean how to make a moving tileset?"" ---the "thing that moves" will have to have its own sprite sheet (i think)the way i would do this is lots of layers of the same thing,start with the lowest layer get it how you want it...move to next layer up and change it to how it should be...then up an other do same thing...do this agen and agen till you think you have what you want...you can see how it moves in filters (in gimp)...after that you move the layer out EVENLY to a full sheet.......dont know if this helps (still a noob artiest i is).......

the map,
here is a idea on layout(IMHO) ...some thing like this would be cool...

-----------skipy

I think you all are doing a good job on selectively deciding what works. I'll step away from adding comments and let the contributors to this tileset decide when they are done. I'll just confirm its completion when it is announced.

argul wrote:

Wombat wrote:It looks flat, but it is an excellent add. A little tweaking and it'll get good

Also, so far it looks like we are progressing quickly. The Arena modifications are a little rough still (which they should be).

What do you exactly mean?
There are different things, skipy did it more dirty, I tried to put up without much color change,
so which direction do you want us to go? a dirty crypt, or maybe two levels, where the first level is more like a crypt and the second like a dirty hidden place? or ...? please explain more

sorry that i did not map the last days very stressful weekend.

Pjotr

Edit: @ MerlinX420:

Your wall is 7 tiles high. Thats 3,5 players. IMHO a bit too high for a crypt. Can you cahnge either the heigth? or should there be only one place int wall to put a body?

Your not suppose to use the whole wall silly. That's just a mockup anyway.

When you really insist on using the arena tiles as floor textures at least flip them upside down to fix the light direction.

And off Merlin goes digging for a floor:

I'm gonna have to track this down. I think it was made for tmw but the color direction was wrong. (The floor in this mockup in question)

Sorry my mockup didn't give a good view on how I visualize the wall working.
I see it kinda like this:
Shadows would have to be added and i just wanted to give a quick visual with the new floor and the stone coffin i was working on.

Looks OK so far, but the colors are too warm for a creepy scenario. I used the Hue/Saturation/Volume dialog in GIMP to shift the yellow hue to blue and also reduced the gamma:

I like the shift. Idk about that blue but it seems to work.
If the floor meets everyone's approval then I will make a copy of the existing block walls and the new crypt ones and created a shifted set more along these lines.
I see the you plan on 45 degree walls. I have a tinkered with and made a 45 degree wall for this set. Unfortunately it suffers from the horrible re-sizing effect but
should be suitable.

In a few days I will post a compiled set. I might have a separate shadow tileset that I started making with my new roof. Perhaps I will pull that to a separate sheet so that can be pushed and used independently. Really this place takes on a whole new dimension once shadows are added. I find that it will be useful to have these shadows to use on an over-layer so they actually cast over the player sprite.

FYI: Crypt will be dark like the Snake Pit.

The mockup looks really cool
The walls and the stair is really nice
So there will be a upper floor where the Opferstein is located *planning map*

I see there are pillars in the right lower corner.
They are really needed for a crypt, so maybe you can do a few different pillars.
( it would be really awesome if they look just a bit larger and more impressive. )

Pjotr