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The particle engine is not really suitable to visualize large-scale liquid flows.

I actually really like Modanung's lava (its probably a little too realistic for the game at this time, but in the future i could see it used)

Len wrote:I actually really like Modanung's lava (its probably a little too realistic for the game at this time, but in the future i could see it used)

What's wrong with realism?

You might think that there is no "too good" for graphics. But when graphics are significantly better than their surrounding they stand out uncomfortably and hurt the overall composition more than they help it.

As an example compare the pixel art style of Seiken Densetzu 3 and Zelda for SNES: The graphics of SD3 are clearly superior. They have a much higher grade of detail and use a lot of advanced pixel art techniques while the art of Zelda is pretty minimalistic. But the minimalistic style is consistent.

Imagine what would happen when we would take some tiles from SD3 and put them into Zelda. Would they improve Zeldas overall graphics? No, they would make them worse because they would destroy the consistency.

Crush wrote:You might think that there is no "too good" for graphics. But when graphics are significantly better than their surrounding they stand out uncomfortably and hurt the overall composition more than they help it.

As an example compare the pixel art style of Seiken Densetzu 3 and Zelda for SNES:

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The graphics of SD3 are clearly superior. They have a much higher grade of detail and use a lot of advanced pixel art techniques while the art of Zelda is pretty minimalistic. But the minimalistic style is consistent.

Imagine what would happen when we would take some tiles from SD3 and put them into Zelda. Would they improve Zeldas overall graphics? No, they would make them worse because they would destroy the consistency.

I know. But EJlol has been working on a new cave tileset that we could integrate the better lava into.

But EJlol has been doing nothing while he should be working on a new cave tileset that we could integrate the better lava into.

I'd been assuming that the new-cave tileset would replace the old-cave tileset. But I'm moving to the idea that they should both be in the game for a long time as different types of cave, in the same way that we have different types of village.

Zelda and SD3 tiles in the same map would be terrible. But how would people feel about having some caves look like Zelda and others in a different region look like SD3?

Bias: I've spent a while working on the old-cave tileset recently.