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Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 23:16
by Chicka-Maria
for me its 50/50

for the sorcerers robe recolored i would say deffinetly not, if anything a dev robe should be a regular robe with the dev cap color just like the GM hat and robe are same colors. The regular robes would be much better if there would be a dev robe.

Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 23:24
by yourmistakes
i have to agree with o11c on this, a robe and a hat should not be the reason someone contributes.

Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 23:41
by mistergrey
I agree and disagree there... personally, I think it was kind of fair when artists got the first copy of an item they designed, for example. This wasn't necessarily making the only appeal to developing an item reward, but it inspired people to actually work on things, and not in a half assed, "I'll fix the 50 shading faults on this later" kind of way.

As for the robes, I'm kind of impartial to GM robes as they are, and wouldn't really care if they were changed. Dev robes, while I think they aren't as necessary due to GMs needing to be identifiable more often, they could be cool if it was something the dev team wanted.

Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 23:46
by Tiana
No and No. The GM robe is part of an outfit we wear to identify ourselves (although wearing it is at our discretion). Developers don't really have a reason to be identified in such a way. I also very much agree that contributing to the game does not really need to be rewarded with outfits, it might even be counterproductive. I am sure there are far better things that should be pixeled or otherwise worked on than special outfits for only a few...

I am also positive that if anyone bothered to do a search, this type of topic has come up before and has been thoroughly shot down.

I like my GM robe, but if its going to cause an issue with the new Devs please take it away and remove it from the "official GM outfit" description on the wiki. The hats and the color changed name should be enough for players to recognize us on duty.

Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 23:58
by Chicka-Maria
Well technacly newbies cant identify GM's from their robes, it could be just a colored robe to them. I dont think the GM really identifies you as a GM but it is nice to have and i see GM's wearing it with other clothing sometimes.

I just think its nice to have a robe for each team. Just not as out there as the robes ali-g made. a simple robe like the GM robe would be cool.

anyway this is just my opinion on things :D

Regards,

Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 07:17
by Crush
As a former developer I think that you should invest the considerable time and energy it takes to create an armor rather into something the players benefit from directly instead of another staff-only item. That being said, I think that you should definitely continue working on this. TMW could really need some new clothes. But please do it for the players, not for the other team members.

Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 07:20
by argul
Crush wrote:As a former developer I think that you should invest the considerable time and energy it takes to create an armor rather into something the players benefit from directly instead of another staff-only item. That being said, I think that you should definitely continue working on this. TMW could really need some new clothes. But please do it for the players, not for the other team members.
fully agreed

Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 13:41
by Alige
It seems we all came to the same conclusion: the DEV robe isn't necessary and the GM robe is good as it is currently.

I think that we can close the topic now.

Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 22:13
by baseballboy
IMO, don't think devs should have a cap to begin with, in an obvious effort to give them something for helping they turn it into a cocky show hat and use it to their advantage. (not all dev but most of them) I think most would agree. It's annoying and should be removed.

-BBB

Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 27 Sep 2011, 22:44
by Chicka-Maria
baseballboy wrote:IMO, don't think devs should have a cap to begin with, in an obvious effort to give them something for helping they turn it into a cocky show hat and use it to their advantage. (not all dev but most of them) I think most would agree. It's annoying and should be removed.

-BBB
I disagree, they volunteer their own time to make stuff for the game the least they can get is a cap.
And i dont really think its the hat that makes SOME devs cocky its the dev status itself or the feeling that they did something more for the game then regular players have.

Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 00:07
by yourmistakes
baseballboy wrote:IMO, don't think devs should have a cap to begin with, in an obvious effort to give them something for helping they turn it into a cocky show hat and use it to their advantage. (not all dev but most of them) I think most would agree. It's annoying and should be removed.

-BBB
agreed
from what i've seen, the devs that invest the most time wear the cap the least.

Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 01:56
by Chicka-Maria
Well either way there IS a dev cap and the people who earned it get one so i dont think its going to leave the game anytime soon.

Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 07:36
by Reid
Chicka-Maria wrote:Well either way there IS a dev cap and the people who earned it get one so i dont think its going to leave the game anytime soon.

Why not? Platyna get back the crown and some orher special item from in game, it could be a good topic, Devs should got a dev hat or not?

Sadly here it isn't the place for this, maybe someone could creat a new topic?

Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 09:35
by Chicka-Maria
Reid wrote:Platyna get back the crown and some orher special item from in game
then why try and get more taken from game? it really does blow she took some though.

Re: [DIS] GM and DEV robes?

Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 00:19
by Nard
Tiana wrote:No and No. The GM robe is part of an outfit we wear to identify ourselves (although wearing it is at our discretion). Developers don't really have a reason to be identified in such a way. I also very much agree that contributing to the game does not really need to be rewarded with outfits, it might even be counterproductive. I am sure there are far better things that should be pixeled or otherwise worked on than special outfits for only a few...

I am also positive that if anyone bothered to do a search, this type of topic has come up before and has been thoroughly shot down.

I like my GM robe, but if its going to cause an issue with the new Devs please take it away and remove it from the "official GM outfit" description on the wiki. The hats and the color changed name should be enough for players to recognize us on duty.
I totally agree with this point of view. Developers should even be told not to wear their cap unless they are on duty too (most of them do it). I even wonder why they are granted the GM level 40 except on special conditions such as the release of a new content. And even then a few shared accounts are necessary in my opinion. I think only the admins and project leaders who may have to do interventions on the main server should have this qualification. On an other side, developers and contributors could be rewarded with game items or gp.