Currently, that page says
I found this previous version to be more helpful, but I'm curious what others think.The wiki is not the place to list game rules. The canonical game rules are the ones shown in-game, as available in the git repository.
I found this previous version to be more helpful, but I'm curious what others think.The wiki is not the place to list game rules. The canonical game rules are the ones shown in-game, as available in the git repository.
Then don't give random people admin privs on the wiki?o11c wrote:The reason we MUST NOT put the game rules on the wiki is that in the past, people with wiki admin privileges have put a FALSE version of the rules on that page.
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very few people can read code so a git link is completely worthless. why even have anything at all on the wiki if it links to something only the devs can read?o11c wrote:The reason we MUST NOT put the game rules on the wiki is that in the past, people with wiki admin privileges have put a FALSE version of the rules on that page.
I think the reason for this is that the process for changing the rules wasn't clear, which lead to some misunderstandings about the current rulings.o11c wrote:Nobody has addressed the issue of how we're supposed to make sure that the wiki page does not contain information that *contradicts* the actual rules.
Past experience has shown that even restricting editing to administrators is not enough, and I have seen nothing to indicate that anything has changed.
Usually it does not works. TMW is very good example.o11c wrote:Sometimes social problems *can* be solved by technical solutions.
To be honest, from QA point of view, TMW rules are so obscure and hard to find that it takes a degree in rocket science to be sure you don't violate anything. And even then, it looks like it does not really warrants safety from administrative actions (looking on mahouking vs yellow assasin case).The reason we MUST NOT put the game rules on the wiki is that in the past, people with wiki admin privileges have put a FALSE version of the rules on that page.
I really don't want to derail this thread, but I think that might be a bad example, to be honest. That whole issue had nothing to do with the rules. Instead you had two people, and taken out of the context, the server logs could confirm both of their stories. The only problem was, only one of those people were willing to tell any kind of story. The other didn't want to talk, so he was banned as is normal procedure in scamming cases, to protect any items. As soon as he decided to talk, the whole issue was cleared and everyone could go back to their normal playing.t3st3r wrote:And even then, it looks like it does not really warrants safety from administrative actions (looking on mahouking vs yellow assasin case).