The official server flamewar topic

[Altus Institute]

So you are the troll now nowadays?

where do you see a troll?
A troll is someone who spread false info...isn't it?
Its not because you lack something to make you understand the real mana world that you must see a troll where there is not.
see.
If i well understand the scheme :

moving the server free of fees to a paying server (a commercial one)
taking all the data from the current admin (its a push?)
Talking about doing more stuff to extend the game.
BUT Stopping the game to do game engine instead.
saying the game will be implemented later...(to do a quest (+-)1-2years is needing)
.....so not until 5 years we will see a new quest ingame....

And using sarcasm to put down someone instead using brain and stuff to do better things.
Locking people who talk, telling they doing DRAMA , but not locking their own friends...
And more....we are a community....so if someone hurting a dev or else others stand for the fight....the most of time without thinking if they do good or not.
giving back the ultra rare items....and keeping the rare ingame in the hands of a bunch of friends....others dont need them...
Why dont you have make a poll to ask to the all community if players are agreed to give back unobtainable items??
You take the decision for yourself and friends...
Friendship is the great idea behind/beyond tmw.
I wanted to change my badge yesterday and 4144 said yes, he checked the links and all, and one half hour later he tell me the speech of alexanderlime (see his post).
So finally like im not a friend i have to wait until 4144 (or someone else) decide to change the icon.
Is it not a good picture of what dev leads the project....in the wall?
i used the icon from when we can add them in game....why i can not now change them?
"because i dont want"....."u use too many char so wait, i will change them in the future"
Understand me well 4144, i respect the decision you tell me.
But you showed me that you are just a puppet in the hand of someone else.
You dont want to change the badge? who care?
QUESTION : who is using the badge?
how many players?
3? 5? 50?
Make your vote...
So what tf with you guys?
Because i put badge for more than 9 char, you found its too much?
Why the client have 9 slot?
Why player can have more than one account?
If i come with 15 char to put badge for them where is the problem?
Because all are for one player?
lol
15 is just a number...15 for one player or 15 badge for several player its the same...

ANSWER : the mana world is lead to the commercial way.
-commercial server.
-patreon (???) to bring money in the project.
-game is locked down to do game engine....but we continue to do things to brings stuff ingame (giving back ultra rare to only a bunch)<----BUT WHEN a player NAMED RILL ASKED TO HAVE BACK HER ITEMS LOST CAUSE A BUG /or similar, wushin said NO.
-why only a few keeps the rare and ultra rare?
because the game will be commercial...not tomorrow guys....keep breathing
and because there is no reason to not give to others players access to the rare...unless commercial start to dance in the shadow.

Yes yes i know.....i lost my brain
Remember guys that im just stupid

With Love



ps : Platyna your description of the tmwc is smart. Bravo. (im not talking about the funny picture)
But i read some of your old post and my question is : are you reliable?
its not because you can say yes that you are....why? because at the first time you teamed with this guys who try to sink the boat...

[mas886]

So you are basically saying that you want an only leader with absolute power and ignore completely the community (Or people decided by the community) to do what you think it's better. I will suppose that you want to be this leader?

Maybe it's that way of thinking why they left your server and made their own way with an Open Source project.

If you want someone to work solely for you, and under your dictations, then pay him/her.Other ways you won't have any power over anyone.

[Altus Institute]

Maybe it's that way of thinking why they left your server and made their own way with an Open Source project.

Seems we have the worse instead the bad...
Clearly the both system are not good for the project.

[mas886]

Maybe it's that way of thinking why they left your server and made their own way with an Open Source project.

Seems we have the worse instead the bad...
Clearly the both system are not good for the project.

That will be your personal opinion, what are your points to say that? And what would be the "best" system for a project like this? Or you are complaining because you don't like the people who are in charge? On that case that's just personal problems.

[wushin]

Yes, the community is paying for the server. Why is that so bad?

Many more quests, features and etc have been added:

• Annual Holiday during Winter
• Kyllians Delivery extended
• Valon
• Crypts are
• Quest Log
• Art for several more weapon styles (axe, pikes, spears, great axe)
• NPC sprites reduced to doll parts for easier use
• New Art for Nivalis
• pvp and fightclub
• New art for tulimshar caves
• New spells for dark magic
• Typo fixes to much of the client-data
• At least 1,000s of commits
• publishing of once private repos (Manamarket)

4144 and Manaplus (M+) are not under the preview of TMW or TMWC. That is 4144's project and they are solely in control of it.

Rill didn't lose them to a bug, they lost them to how that quest works. If there was an easy way to be able to reset the quest state it would be no problem. We understood the problem and eventually worked out a compromise with Rill to purchase the armor from them to be able to replace the goods used. viewtopic.php?p=148862#p148862 Which we will always seek to do.

TMW is not being led to a commercial state. We are asking people to support the server and game so we don't have to worry about whether or not the current host is going to lose their job, get all flaky, nuked from orbit. I nor anyone else on TMW can single-handedly control the server, the server in completely in the communities hands. If the community doesn't support the server, the server dies. Its now a group effort.

I've already posted my concerns about how some TMW rares become rares. Bottle of Sand, but starting a poll to take any sort of action in TMW a step any user can make from player to TMWC. The next step is convincing a developer to take action on it. http://theoatmeal.com/comics/design_hell People are volunteering their time to work on this project. Anyone can volunteer their time to work on anything with this project. Many have made patches to the code and TMW has accepted them. Thus is the way of open source.

[SriNitayanda]

Merged some topics, regarding the official flame war. Well they belong here, future related posts will be moved to here too.

[EJlol]

Regards,

KLM airplane

[Cassy]

"I obviously have no idea who is in TMWC nowadays but they all are powerhungry thiefs of an open source project, so everyone follow me as the one and only leader who decides upon everything".

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[Altus Institute]

Its so simple to please others
all we need is just Love.

You guys feels wounded by something?
revenge serve nothing but death.
Take back what you want if you feel better after this.
Im ok with.

Hear the song of Love and...

....Do your best.
We Love you.



With Love.

[shame]

in TMW(The Mana World), a perma ban does come from player feedback when given to this "leads"... remember, prsm? a perma ban, you guys are rediculous.
my feelings towards you, was the reason for ww2.
they banish the truth like always these pricks did(they feel theyr smart and tell u until u get sik).
for plain input i was banned on the forum until 23 september and ingame forever ^^
(you need to know i post this on the internet, and the admin who banned me writes scripts to attack .edu plattforms and doesnt like a lot when i tell, he then with a girl char says im badbadbad) trash this Chocolate Cupcake!
points r: a moneysink that only benefits botters, a missing landbridge that devides players from beginners, a missing snakepit, the ppl know what they know in regards how it was and so on. they believe it can be the development of an engine alone without having all the input and players that also become devs.. sry but they die this game and this to some effort as of now)
also from a non pw login game it developed to something you cant enter, and that with 26 players!

ur litteral death for this!

[SriNitayanda]

Did you also post with same language you used when you got banned?
The reason you got banned is for wishing the death of tmw players, calling them pricks and worse. nothing to do with you spamming the same things over and over again about land bridge and other nonsense.
we really don't care, we can't be more right in your case. expect any sockpuppet account to be banned from forums too, cause you continue to use the same language.

[prsm]

I have changed my ban to you to 2 hours, it should be longer, but I will let your actions speak for themselves.

You didn't get banned for any of you game advice, or your critics of the game.

You got banned for your insults, something you seem to do very often.

You can't come on a game and call people pricks or nazis. I could have shown you more of your insults but kids do read the forums so I will leave it at those.

If you can't control your insults you will get banned again.


Prsm

[shame]

pricks, and only unjust pricks i called you, see madcamels words maybe, he started a thread about racism and antigay, he didnt want, hes your slaveholder, only some time eralier, you pricks said nothing!.

[prsm]

Right there is why you got banned Shame/Enga, you just can't control your self.

[shame]

i will spit on your sense of justice as well as being a >>game master<< anytime.