Be careful about responding to NRUs
Be careful about responding to NRUs
When a Newly Registered User creates a topic, it might be best to ignore it.
I should take my own advice for that matter.
What happens is this: An NRU makes a nonsensical or bait-like post, then, after someone responds, the post is edited with marketing links.
Maybe you knew that before I did. *head desk*
I'll follow this guideline: NRU must have made at least 10 good posts, must have kept the account for at least 1 week,
and the created topic must not be vague, incomprehensible, or bait-like.
Example topics might include:
"What pisses you off?"
"how do I create a Linux application?"
"Where do babies come from?"
"John Kerry forgot Polend?"
I have myself to blame for responding to any of that.
I should take my own advice for that matter.
What happens is this: An NRU makes a nonsensical or bait-like post, then, after someone responds, the post is edited with marketing links.
Maybe you knew that before I did. *head desk*
I'll follow this guideline: NRU must have made at least 10 good posts, must have kept the account for at least 1 week,
and the created topic must not be vague, incomprehensible, or bait-like.
Example topics might include:
"What pisses you off?"
"how do I create a Linux application?"
"Where do babies come from?"
"John Kerry forgot Polend?"
I have myself to blame for responding to any of that.
- evilmonkey
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Re: Be careful about responding to NRUs
Of the 150 newest accounts, the ones listed below are using
TMW's resources for their own monetary gain. Typically they
just make a deadwood account with a link to their marketing
so they will be indexed by web crawlers.
These accounts are a waste and should be anihilated:
Accounts linking to probable deceptive or illegal sites:
7225
Accounts that use the forum for nothing but marketing:
7306
7281
7280
7267
7232
7205
Accounts that have 0 posts but link to marketing websites:
7326
7325
7323
7319
7308
7301
7289
7279
7261
7254
7242
7241
7240
7230
7226
7213
7212
7206
7204
7203
7200
7194
7183
7181
7180
Additionally that "evilmonkey" marketing weenie, unless he edits his profile.
TMW is not for your unsolicited marketing. Advertisers should, with caution, consult Platyna first about a contract.
TMW's resources for their own monetary gain. Typically they
just make a deadwood account with a link to their marketing
so they will be indexed by web crawlers.
These accounts are a waste and should be anihilated:
Accounts linking to probable deceptive or illegal sites:
7225
Accounts that use the forum for nothing but marketing:
7306
7281
7280
7267
7232
7205
Accounts that have 0 posts but link to marketing websites:
7326
7325
7323
7319
7308
7301
7289
7279
7261
7254
7242
7241
7240
7230
7226
7213
7212
7206
7204
7203
7200
7194
7183
7181
7180
Additionally that "evilmonkey" marketing weenie, unless he edits his profile.
TMW is not for your unsolicited marketing. Advertisers should, with caution, consult Platyna first about a contract.
- evilmonkey
- Peon
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- Joined: 21 Nov 2010, 22:40
- Location: Australia
- Contact:
Re: Be careful about responding to NRUs
I agree, there are a lot of spammers who will take advantage, if not blocked.
Are you calling me a "marketing weenie"? What is that? Is it because I have a link back to my personal website? Everyone else has links back to their personal websites.
Are you calling me a "marketing weenie"? What is that? Is it because I have a link back to my personal website? Everyone else has links back to their personal websites.
evil-monkey
Re: Be careful about responding to NRUs
Worst thread ever. Disallowing new users to create threads is just wrong.
Yeah, there are some NRU that create spam-only topics, but there are only 2-3 threads / month tops, I don't really see the problem here.
I don't like advertising signatures like "zomg buy cheap watches here $$$" either,
but where do you draw the line between a genuie website which as ads and a ads-only page?
I say just handle it like we did in the past, delete ads-only-spam threads, improve the anti-bot-registration-thingy and ignore the rest until some user gets unbearable.
Edit: And I'm not really sure why Platyna should decide about advertisting contracts? And I really doubt she would agree to one for any site on Platinium.
Yeah, there are some NRU that create spam-only topics, but there are only 2-3 threads / month tops, I don't really see the problem here.
I don't like advertising signatures like "zomg buy cheap watches here $$$" either,
but where do you draw the line between a genuie website which as ads and a ads-only page?
I say just handle it like we did in the past, delete ads-only-spam threads, improve the anti-bot-registration-thingy and ignore the rest until some user gets unbearable.
Edit: And I'm not really sure why Platyna should decide about advertisting contracts? And I really doubt she would agree to one for any site on Platinium.
Re: Be careful about responding to NRUs
Sorry, I didn't mean to say "prevent new users from creating topics". I made a personal decision not to be fooled again by clever marketers.
I do think it is naughty to use TMW forums just to expand business visibility to web crawlers without actually using the account.
If a script for deleting deadwood accounts doesn't already exist, the criteria for creating one isn't much.
I do think it is naughty to use TMW forums just to expand business visibility to web crawlers without actually using the account.
If a script for deleting deadwood accounts doesn't already exist, the criteria for creating one isn't much.
- evilmonkey
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Re: Be careful about responding to NRUs
I agree, like I've seen other forums that have become dump grounds for websites that want backlinks. And it looks ugly. Like I noticed on the Joomla forum that people just add event announcements and product advertisements to the point where you can't see "real" posts.
TMW forum is nowhere near that however. And I think that gamers should be allowed to have a backlink to their website. Why not? So what if they get some extra page rank points? If they're contributing to the forum and play the game, why not? (by the way TMW forum has only a PR of 4, you won't bet much PR from a site like this anyway.)
And apparently I'm a marketing weenie:
TMW forum is nowhere near that however. And I think that gamers should be allowed to have a backlink to their website. Why not? So what if they get some extra page rank points? If they're contributing to the forum and play the game, why not? (by the way TMW forum has only a PR of 4, you won't bet much PR from a site like this anyway.)
And apparently I'm a marketing weenie:
Additionally that "evilmonkey" marketing weenie, unless he edits his profile.
evil-monkey
- Freeyorp101
- Archivist Prime
- Posts: 768
- Joined: 04 Nov 2008, 09:17
- Location: New Zealand
Re: Be careful about responding to NRUs
Boom. Any others that need to be taken care of?bcs wrote:These accounts are a waste and should be anihilated:
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---Freeyorp
(09:58:17) < tux9th> Freeyorp: your sig on the forums is kind of outdated
Re: Be careful about responding to NRUs
When you see a post with spam in its content or signature, even when it's older, please report it using the forums report system by clicking on the [!] icon in the lower right corner of the post.
I usually delete these users when I spot them, but unfortunately some of them slip through from time to time.
I usually delete these users when I spot them, but unfortunately some of them slip through from time to time.
- former Manasource Programmer
- former TMW Pixel artist
- NOT a game master
Please do not send me any inquiries regarding player accounts on TMW.
You might have heard a certain rumor about me. This rumor is completely false. You might also have heard the other rumor about me. This rumor is 100% accurate.
Re: Be careful about responding to NRUs
I also delete such accounts upon contact (usually via reporting).
This message used to be meaningful.
Re: Be careful about responding to NRUs
We got many moderators and they since years handle spam decently. Just user report button.
And I see no reason why we should have ads on TMW, Bjorn rather wouldn't like it as well.
Regards.
And I see no reason why we should have ads on TMW, Bjorn rather wouldn't like it as well.
Regards.
Re: Be careful about responding to NRUs
Ads will spoil the game.
Re: Be careful about responding to NRUs
We're very fortunate to have a host that doesn't seek to place ads on pages or anywhere else.
I read something about "adbard" for these kinds of projects which only advertises other GPL-ish things.
I don't imagine it would generate much revenue, but ought to fit into the culture and model better than other advertisers.
Frankly I hate ads and spam, although I'm not entitled to tell the host whether or not to use them.
I read something about "adbard" for these kinds of projects which only advertises other GPL-ish things.
I don't imagine it would generate much revenue, but ought to fit into the culture and model better than other advertisers.
Frankly I hate ads and spam, although I'm not entitled to tell the host whether or not to use them.