[POLL]A new exotic trader that sells stuff for bosspoints.

[Chicka-Maria]

like stated above unobtainables circulating in game shouldn't be put on the trader. things like quest items as stated above and IMO items that are not in game already should be put in it such as perhaps the assassins armor or stuff that wont be used in quests later down the road there are a lot of items and even generic items with this status that ARENT in game

[Relm]

I oppose this idea, because purchasers will be able to turn around and sell the item to another player for GP and this eliminates a GP sink (a good thing) and creates a BP sink (possibly a bad thing depending on other dev plans). I prefer more quests like Milly's Hero, some with lower requirements and some higher.

[Chicka-Maria]

Voted no, I already listed reasons.
If people want to obtain the items that are listed they can earn them the same way others did.

regards,
Chicka

[Cassy]

One of the reasons why some items, especially rares and Illia Quest rewards, have ridiculous high values on ManaMarket so most "normal" player can't get them is because there are people who have the money to buy them.
Why should anyone trade an item for a lower price when using high values is successful too?
Money accumulates among older players, a money sink is always needed for TMW.
Players hear "money sink" and think "oh noooooo" but in fact it helps getting the game and economy, the item prices, balanced (or least balances a bit more) - it helps them.

I voted no.
If we reintroduce unobtainables, then with BP+GP and of course high values (but not ridiculously high like 20KK GP for an Eyepatch, so also less high then most ManaMarket sell prices) to not make frustrated players who got those after hard work leave.

[veryape]

Just to clarify, i don't want to touch the exotic trader we already have. This is a suggestion for a totally new npc. I re-read the thread and thought i should clarify this. So the money-sink will still be there.

[cruderags]

Scarab armlet would be very good to be sold like this along with crown.

If this works out please add that.

[Relm]

Just to clarify, i don't want to touch the exotic trader we already have. This is a suggestion for a totally new npc. I re-read the thread and thought i should clarify this. So the money-sink will still be there.

I missed this; now I understand better what you meant. I still dislike the idea of spending BP, because I feel that if that were instituted the game would be lacking a cumulative currency akin to prestige. We have GP and monster points available as currencies which can be spent. More options for spending monster points, e.g. in bulk or with more choice, I would welcome.

With regard to the suggestions of e.g. Scarab Armlet, I would prefer introducing new items over making rare items more common, ceteris paribus.

[cruderags]

Instead of spending boss points, you can create a new quest which requires a large amount of different items (100 snake skins, 100 grass snake eggs, 100 treasure keys, etc... ) to be given to the new npc for one rare / unobtainable item.

The quest should be doable only once per player, and should be made difficult.

[AnonDuck]

I don't see why not. Pretty much all of the "No" votes are old players not wanting super-rares they probably paid dearly for to become "readily" available again. The thing is.. There are also new players. They should have a chance at getting these items too!
I could very well be wrong but it seems to me that everyone hoards their rares these days. There doesn't seem to be an active market for things like the eyepatch and tophat anymore.

To the oldsters: Do you remember going through hell to aqquire these items? Don't you think newer players should be allowed to go through hell also? Doing 600 candors to get a crown isn't a simple task (Assuming the script is modified to actually make it that hard)

For these reasons I vote Yes, with the hopes that the difficulty level to obtain such items will be set to "extremely high".

[thusmark]

I'm not an old player and I have very few rares, but I still voted 'No.' Once you put an item on Exotic Trader, it loses its novelty. Do 600 Candor for it? Why not? It's just a matter of time. No motivation, nothing. You get loads of BP, go to the shop, all the items are at your disposal.

On the other hand, an item which is no longer obtainable, which can only be bought from another player? It's fun to hunt these items down, try to see who sells them. Being polite and non-insistent the whole time, of course. This also increases social interactions. In a boss fight, people might all come together, but there is no necessity for speech. For buying items, there is.

And what about the people who aren't interested in rares? If this is made the only way to spend BP, BP = GP for them. BP should be spent in more interesting ways. I have no idea about coding, so these are just wild ideas:

1. Extend range of archers and mages for a certain period of time for a certain amount of BP.
2. Give temp def boost to warriors.
3. ... Well, you know where I'm going with this. And the temp is not like pots, more like days.
4. BP can also be used to limit some maps to players with a set amount of BP. Of course, you don't pay BP to go to those areas, you just need to have the required amount of BP on the char.

Funny the Top Hat was mentioned, I got one recently at a to-die-for price, not because the person didn't know the ongoing price, but was extremely generous. These people are playing, you just have to have a reasonable amount of GP and the courage to actually whisper politely. And, no, don't ask me who they are, I'm not telling. If people have got time to complain about the high prices demanded for items, they have the time to get the GP for them. There are also the GM Events. Try to work for items there.

But it is true that these items might soon become evenly distributed. Maybe have an event once in 5 years to introduce a very small number of some rares into the game...

Just my opinion though.

[cruderags]

If a player would play 600 candors to get one item, then I say they deserve it!!!

There must certainly be a way to get at least one item per login id. I think this will boost interest in the game.

[willee]

voted yes for bp shop itself

note regarding exotic shop duplicates: 25k bp is not equal to 25kk gp

[Hello=)]

Yes for sure. Boss points aren't very easy to get in huge amount, it takes considerable time and efforts. As far as I know, only several oldest or most active players got them into range of 30K or so and most playsers usually have far less than that. Unlike GPs its not too easy to farm boss points by doing almost nothing/simplistic stuff - player usually have to deal with reasonably hard events which are hard to bot or do AFK sitting or just hit 1 button to grind. So if player got enough boss points, it has been something like playing many candors and similar quite challenging battles/events. Granted these facts I think boss points trader can give some "hard to get" ("elite") items. So players would be motivated to take part in boss fights, after all.

As for money sinks - boss points are IMO harder to get than GPs and there is no real long-term sinks for boss points. I got over 20k boss points .. and they're totally useless at this point. As for GP sinks... it can be wise to both ask for noticeable GPs amount AND boss points amount. Why not?

As for snake tongues and sould, etc for boss points - that's just LOL! I can get enough tongues on my own. And I have over 1000 souls in storage as there is no real sinks in game for jacko souls (maybe these should be used for some high-profile spells?). Do you honestly want to give me more of that crap? Would sound like nice trolling attempt, haha . You better to invent some sinks for jacko souls rather than to GIVE them .

[veryape]

I think it is time to lift this once again.

My reasoning is simple, lately we have not had much new content in game. The older players mostly sit around in town (yes I am one of them), with little incentive to actually play the game. The noobs might get help by us pointing them towards what to do, but we don't actually play alongside them because we have no incentive to do so.

This suggestion might get a few easily led people with a bank balance in game to pay for Candors that everyone can enjoy (over lvl 40). It would get the older players that likes fancy hats to play alongside newer players.

It is a easy thing to implement in the game while there is work going on under the hood that can bring some life to the game once again.

[SDN]

In addition, the classic way to prevent trading certain items is by making them untradable. So if a player receive them, these items will bind to his/her character (restricted to name and or ID), thus making them unusable by other. If this can be implemented, IMO, then having elite/special items with or without special buff by trading extreme-hard-to-get boss points will surely worth it. Anw, this method can also be used in other occasions (i have an idea for this).

I believe this untradable items might bring new air to TMW. A player is challenged to do boss fight, instead of buying the items from others, just to feel proud wearing gears with his/her name marked on it. This items are not rare. It's just elite by nature. XD