The official server flamewar topic

[nm0i]

You all bad, ban

[blackrazor]

This is what this thread is like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JmA2ClUvUY

The cool thing about that vid, if you actually watch it through, is those two babies are actually communicating with each other. Sure, it's at an animal level (given their age), but with a combination of pitch, speed, gestures, posture, etc. they are clearly exchanging information with each other.

[nice]

for me, some of you guys are just cracy machines, and its not platyna.

[Altus Institute]

Haters gonna hate. Anyways 8 days left.

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after insulting community, Wushin laughing at the community.
He didnt hide him anymore.

The Mana World community is a bunch of highly doing nothing for him.
And his last post in time, moke us.
"say what you want, i dont care, i pushed everything to be done".

He is the tmwc leader.
He is not a common player who have lost his mind.
Ty very much Wushin for this demo of your mind.
Seems its was a contest for you?
False it wasnt, you will learn it in time.


So you want the rare?
have it, keep it.
You want to put trash in game?
do it and have fun
You despise the community?
how adorable you are.

while you insult the community you talking about us as haters?
You are the one who hate wushin, nobody else.

So its my last post on this forum where the leaders despise the community over what they are based.
For them the community are haters.
For them the community are good for nothing.
.....i stop here....i dont care about anymore.

WUSHIN YOU WON THE CONTEST GO AT DEPART SPOT TAKE THE GP, AND THE CROWN AND LETS HAVE A PARTY.

we can only talk with ppl who build, with those who destruct, we are patient.
My last word on this forum.
Do as you are pleased, who care?
All you need is ppl who say about trash : wow marvellous, its so awesome.
Im not one of them for my pleasure.
And for yours i will say nothing more on the forum.

I think that all is clear for the community now.

bye bye

ps : congratulation on your title, board director

[wushin]

[Cassy]

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[deepthought]

dafaq!!

[Altus Institute]

2016-01-10 19:30:11 wushin join #opengameart and ask "Hey who wants to make me 268 frame sprite piece gear for free"

what you talking about?
Its the purpose of this website to ask this kind of stuff.
Do you forgot what the meaning of opensource?
Seems you try to mix opensource and private owner.

So now you show us all the things you have done :

This is just shear arrogance to give more credit for a thing to a certain group than others. Never before has a TMW dev existed (except maybe wombat) so open to change. I've contributed to pretty much all the things; various servers, M+, TMWA, Server-data, tools, website and client-data editing. I think only a few devs ever managed to contribute something to all. Trained up a few people as well and had help from some elders.

• Player Sprite 1.5
• Player Sprite Dye channeled
• Player Sprite Species
• Gender per char
• most all tulimshar changes
• Remapping for bagzie's snow art
• Quest Log
• Mob<->Warp freeze bug
• Mob pathing issues
• Maintaining TMWA
• Updating wiki
• Getting TMW into SPI
• Free DNS
• Free SSL
• Conflict free hosting (seriously, if I leave TMW ya'll don't have to move the server...again.)
• Xmas Event
• Halloween Event
• Travel Changes
• Various New Quests
• Candor Island Revisted
• So much much more I don't even remember doing that I did
• Did it all with the help of many others

Thanks to you....are you kidding us?
Who in an open source would do a such thing, listing...?
Credits are not here for this?
Do you try to show to your master Bill that you are brave and doing all he wants, showing him what you are highly capable of doing, showing your cv?
Or do you wait a medal?

In all what you show i saw nothing for the players.
Xmas and halloween are good but are annual quest most of us dont play 2 times in year.
Who asked you to revisit candor island instead doing new stuff for the players?
Various new quest. Ah yes the new guy in tulimshar castle who give 5 cakes?
Pauline quest? who summon useless things? mush and fluffies was not enough, while community asked for dark spell/more spell?
Free..free...free stuff? oh do you expect a medal for all of this?
You just fixed your own *removed* after moving the data from platyna server, its all.

Player Sprite 1.5 : all worked well until this, see the ugly turtle neck sweater design to understand.
Player Sprite Dye channeled : idk what this brings in players experience
Player Sprite Species : nice, they are not in game ofc but worse, nothing is about, but you planning to do something....only the community put rocks under your wheel.
Gender per char : 2 genders is not enough, you need 3 to remove female breast and to say that the community is lazy, but fortunately you are not this kind of lazy one.
most all tulimshar changes : seems its was too huge, and pirate place was a place where mage leveled pretty nicely : removed.

Everything you found that please the players you removed it, for a reason or for another.
Do you think you are not here to please the guys who play this game?
What the purpose of a game? dev auto-fap-fap-fap?
Do you think you are allowed to keep in hand everything saying others must match with your point of view, and if not, they can go to see if you fish near some lake to rest your mind?

I insist there's a lack of communication between the development team (TMWC) and the community.

is it still not clear for you?
He is not the only one who say it.
Worse, see how you talk to the community, if you dont understand.

But instead you said :

Yerp, it's like pulling teeth to get the community to do anything.

The problem came from always being "expected" to be the one doing. Yes, it's open source, yes the community matters, but those making commits and changes get more voice because they are doing and fixing. If I'm guilty of anything it's being lazy.

Nobody expect something from you.
But about what you doing, everybody expect that you respect and match with the community point of view.
But you prefer to think, i do the job, i can do whatever i want, others are good for nothing. And if community want to say something, who care, im the one in charge.

Oh oh!!
You will find people if you let ppl express themself!!
Nobody wants to follow and participate to something they dont want.
And for sure you know this, and its for this reason you keep doing what the community dont want, like that you are sure that nobody will comes to take your sit.

You even take it easly insulting ppl

Haters gonna hate. Anyways 8 days left.

Why do you call "haters" everybody who disagrees with you?

Afaik wushin directed it at a specific player, not all the people who got criticism on the change.

no, SriNitayanda, it was not directed toward one person, read it well :

Actually, I've asked for nothing more than someone to do the work. Here we have at least 15+ people who voted yes, who are highly capable doing nothing.

Remember we are all volunteers here. None of us are obligated to do. I'm not even sure when the community became too lazy to even scratch an itch.

Playing the innocent and the victim, why they dont think to you to play in the new star wars, i wonder why?
So no i dont take it for me, and more i dont take it for me because i dont see the point to vote on something already decided.

I will finish with this :

know u tell me why was it wrong!

Offensive language, and for the record, I don't have to answer to you.

I am tired of your rhetoric, you seem to languish in pushing the limits. You lack filters. Just the fact you said "I won't again" instead of "what Did I do" tells me you know.

Your playing this game like we owe you something, we don't. To my knowledge you have done nothing to make this game better. You haven't done development or admin work or GM work or art work or wiki.

All you do is spew verbal diaherra in town, sometimes for hours at a time!

If you can't follow the rules or won't, quit. If you can follow the rules you won't ever hear from me.

Prsm

First : respect the rules

[21:34] Prsm: you just said this [21:32] Enga: did the Cute Kitten like more?
[21:34] Prsm: are you stupid

What i have missed?
Is Cute Kitten more offensive than stupid?
How can you say to someone to respect YOURs rules that you dont even respect in public chat?
You dont even mind to hide it.
You dont even know why she dont tell you : "I won't again" instead of "what Did I do"
How can you be a gm?
a hint.
Cats make cats and dogs make dogs.
and i will not help you to find the answer, but its seems that its personal, like with 011c and some others.

Can you stop boring ppl with i do this, i do that and you YOU did nothing so just close you mouth and and go away, is that you suggest to Adrena its seems?
Or am i wrong about your intentions clearly wrote down by yourself?

But as wushin its seems you are taking others for what they are not.
You will have to stop it, can i say rigth now?
Yes of course i can say it.

And the final, here its comes :

I wanted to summarize a few points about content flame wars, as a reminder for anyone who wants to complain about content in future and for myself for having a history of starting at least one and engaging in a few.

I'll start by quoting wushin: "Yes, it's open source, yes the community matters, but those making commits and changes get more voice because they are doing and fixing."
So i think before complaining we need to ask ourselves: Can we make it better?
.....
If you still don't engage in any of the above but think you got an awesome idea, make a poll on this forum on whether to implement your idea.
If you don't have any constructive idea but still want to complain, congratulations you are a troll. go ahead and complain but don't expect us to take it seriously.

Flame wars are usually divisive of the community, i am posting this in order for us the community to take responsibility too on the changes that are going on in the game. By doing nothing, we lose our credibility when complaining.

Long live tmw
cheers

i dont saw a flame wars, dont speak for nothing.

So, IN CLEAR OR YOU DO WHAT WE ASK YOU FOR OR YOU SHUT UP YOUR BADMOUTHING?????

are you dreaming guys?
Push again and i will be please to help you to understand the meaning of opensource.

You have your skill i have mine and you will, for sure, not really appreciate it.
*removed*, make your mind about it, IF SOMEONE OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ITS NOT UP TO YOU TO SAY THAT HE HAVE NOT THE RIGHT TO DO IT
THE PROJECT BELONG TO THE COMMUNITY, ITS NOT YOUR PROJECT AND EVEN IF YOU HAVE MORE SKILL TO DEV YOU WILL LISTEN UP OUR DEMANDS.

IF NOT I WILL HELP YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE MEANING OF "LEADS".

remenber guys you are not in your kitchen.
And marks my words to not forget them.
It will be sad to see you cry after.

So i hope its the last time i see something like this, if something is not clear for you, go to buy some glasses or read it again.

Calm down im will not do something until YOU push us again.
But when that will be the case, i will make you kneel and abort tmw project for your arrogant words toward the community.
But before you think about to push community again like you did, think about putting all the things down and go to talk to Bill about offer your talents. He will give you a desk, some coffee, and some good for nothing to suck your butt and to say how marvelous that you are.
But dont wait this from an opensource community.
Noboby here tell that you are a good for nothing, every body respect dev works.
So why closing our mouth if we are disagree?
You match more with bill's point of view than an opensource point of view.


Ps : chrome is an opensource project or not, because i found strange that you are affiliate with while tmw is an opensource project, or do you planning something weird?

Ps : where are the legals here?
Since there are rules, votes, committee....
How a community can fire one of the tmwc leads or gm since the twmc are all friends?
Where are the legal terms for the tmwc?
Is gm a title for life?
Because sometimes, i feel like as if im an hostage, and i dont really appreciate it.
So im waiting your links and yours answers about these points.
All is in your hands and i feel like if i have no words to say
And you want to call me "troll" if i say something?
Am I wrong?
Do you want that i open a thread for it?
tell me.
Help or i will help you, chose your way.
I already warned you 2 times and you took it easy turning me as if im your bro the *removed*. *removed*
Let me laugh about how much friends you will have when i will bring it on your face.
If you want to take Bill's way, its up to you.
But you will let this opensource project where its belongs.
And you will learn some manners toward the community who support this project even if some players are weirds

I want to give you hints but since the leads insulting ppl, i will find it more fun to see you play blinded.

Regards

[SriNitayanda]

So you bunch of dumbass, make your mind about it, IF SOMEONE OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ITS NOT UP TO YOU TO SAY THAT HE HAVE NOT THE RIGHT TO DO IT
THE PROJECT BELONG TO THE COMMUNITY, ITS NOT YOUR PROJECT AND EVEN IF YOU HAVE MORE SKILL TO DEV YOU WILL LISTEN UP OUR DEMANDS.

Ofc i forgot open source is all about yielding to the demands of random bullies, well that sounds more like a communist source.
I say you go ahead and try what you do here on other open source projects. Go ahead and demand random stuff on other open source projects. they will either block you as a troll, or ignore you, but remember keep the same attitude like they owe you something.

No one told you what to do, *removed*, you can see i told go ahead and complain, but its better to actually act if you got the tools or give a constructive critic, than to spew hatred at the people who can actually make the change.

I didn't like the boob change but instead of spewing hatred at the dev team which i did at first, i changed my tone tried to give more constructive critic and tried to encourage people to help make the change (saving boobs).

One last thing, you can keep demanding random stuff on the forums read my original post again*removed*. but we won't tolerate spewing hatred on the forums so that is a warning.

P.S you just confirmed my original post,.

[gumi]

[Altus Institute]

So you bunch of dumbass, make your mind about it, IF SOMEONE OF THE COMMUNITY HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY ITS NOT UP TO YOU TO SAY THAT HE HAVE NOT THE RIGHT TO DO IT
THE PROJECT BELONG TO THE COMMUNITY, ITS NOT YOUR PROJECT AND EVEN IF YOU HAVE MORE SKILL TO DEV YOU WILL LISTEN UP OUR DEMANDS.

but remember keep the same attitude like they owe you something.

i am sorry you forgot to turn on your brain today,

to spew hatred at the people who can actually make the change.

but we won't tolerate spewing hatred on the forums so that is a warning.

*removed*
I spew no hate at people you guys did it and its the purpose of my post.

I saw nobody bullying the dev to have something in game.
If there is a poll, ppl participate and its all, giving their anwers.
So, stop dreaming about someone try to hate you or whaterver, *removed*

But i saw dev bullying the community and I dont like it.
You want to me stop, ok.
Stop it too.
if its normal to you, then we have a big problem right now.

Im just so afraid about your warning, its all that im talking about in my post, you continuing insulting ppl telling they spew hate.
*removed*

Better silent one before others see what is your true nature?
go ahead with your warning while you tell me that i need a brain like if im your lil bro.

*remved*
I put it in your hand for the next stage.
Or you will say it was not fair.

Dictatorship always starts saying its not our fault when it is.
You cant read wushin post?
Why are you moderator in this case?
Im pretty sure that you didnt understand all you wrote in your flame wars post.
You even see wars where there isnt one.
So you give me an advice, ty.
I give you one, dont think that you are in your kitchen doing all you want telling that others are just idiot or that they need a brain to catch your point of view, when you dont use one to talk to the other one.
If you cant understand this, ask someone to explain it to you.
Its my warning too.

Do you think that you are on an island??
And stop telling me that i hate you, i dont care about you, you start it.
You want it over?
Talk properly to the community.

[gumi]

[SriNitayanda]

[Altus Institute]

Eurni currently requires level 10 or higher for a sex change. Can we remove that requirement?

Im still trying to understand.
you said that ppl who voted for the boobs topics are highly capable of doing nothing.
SriNitayanda said in his topic about warflames that only ppl who can do something are allowed to say something.
For this useless poll, why do you ask to ppl to vote when you expecting no words from them?
Why useless?
Because doing the letter quest giving you lv12, and it takes 20 min to get lv15 by doing beginers quest and killing 2 firegoblins in the desert.

What the purpose of this poll?
To confirm that nobody will vote on your poll?
To confirm that nobody will post on your thread?
Can you help?
Im aware that you dont have time to waste to answer to ppl who ask you something since they are not involed in your project, but plz take 5 min to help me to understand.

[SriNitayanda]

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