The official server flamewar topic

[blackrazor]

I can't make wushin answer you.
I can try to make, each tmwc member to stick his job. without any further power abuse.

Thank you. What you are saying about jobs and power is really what is best for the game and the players. I really appreciate your sentiments.

As I already said, I don't mind if Wushin answers me or not. I just wanted to be clear from where it is coming, so other TMWC members don't wrongly think that I am referring to them.

[Cassy]

[soseki]

With all due respect, I used the word stupid once, and I have apologized for doing so!

Yes you right prsm, but if i said it several time it was as example in the discussion i had with someone else.
I tried to say to SriNitayanda to read my previous post but he enjoyed particulary the situation to put everything up side down and to ask me again and again and again.
And his back up came to say that i spammed the forum.
Its was a little game of them.

Sorry for all these quotes, and all honor for you. Its good to see that some ppl realize their mistake and want to apologize and change their way of acting.
Im not a supporter, i dont even know Adrena, but as a person/player i know that he/she not someone who want to bring bad in game. Of course you are not a babysitter, but some players need help to stop acting wrong, ban them of something they cant understand will not help them to change their acts.
But sometimes, its takes time....and sometime we dont have times.


I dont said tmwc/dev are bad, i said dont insult the community members its all.
Its for that SriNitayanda dont mind that i can insult him, because he came the first insulting me......and after he played the big prince.....i allow you to insult me he said
And even if someone is not a dev member, tmwc doesnt have to tell that he is a troll because he doesnt follow tmwc orders.
We are not member of some dictatorships dream.

Artists are here, but they are not allowed by the tmwc to put their idea in game because they dont follow tmwc schedule.
I dont say all idea are good to put in game...make the difference.

Remus just ignore what's going on here or you'll end with a headache, it is clear that they will treat you like a troll now, just look at what Cassy, meko and some other are posting. Ass kissers, that's what I see, in order to keep their place they have to agree to what "one" person says, and tmw will stay like this as long as MadCamel, Burndhardt/Chay, and many others that I don't have the time to list, in this community.

[Cassy]

Remus just ignore what's going on here or you'll end with a headache, it is clear that they will treat you like a troll now, just look at what Cassy, meko and some other are posting. Ass kissers, that's what I see, in order to keep their place they have to agree to what "one" person says, and tmw will stay like this as long as MadCamel, Burndhardt/Chay, and many others that I don't have the time to list, in this community.

I'm going to ignore that you just insulted me.

Besides, please don't be one of those persons not knowing the huge history of a certain topic or person but acting as if.
I have about 100 reasons (this number could actually even be true!) to not take him serious.
So with all respect, as long as you don't know them, let me post memes as reply in this spam topic.

[wushin]

I'm not going to let the forums get boogered up with a bunch of different flame/troll threads.

Since this thread historically has all those sentiments, lets keep it all in one place so we know what kind of steaming piles play/played this game.

[blackrazor]

I look forward to the day when Wushin and Cassy go the way of Frost and o11c. Your time is coming, your arrogance makes it inevitable. It's just a matter of time. Time proved me right before and it will again. You insult yourselves and the game you represent with your immature behaviors. You mistake control for cooperation.

[wushin]

See how much nicer it is with just one thread?

[TeZeR.D]

Drama behind closed doors is worrying.

[SriNitayanda]

Drama behind closed doors is worrying.

Try harder this thread is public.

[blackrazor]

Drama behind closed doors is worrying.

Try harder this thread is public.

What happened to:

.... I can try to make, each tmwc member to stick to his job. without any further power abuse.

That was short lived. You know, in matters of rules enforcement, GMs outrank devs. Just saying. Wushin is not a GM, he is content lead, and he has absolutely zero business handling enforcement of rules he makes up. Just like when o11c did it. One day, he will do it on your skin, and then you will feel it and understand, just like with o11c.

P.S. Wushin is also server admin, which again has nothing to do with enforcement. Remember Platyna as server admin?

[deepthought]

There are many people who goes on complaining about developers and GMs without doing a single ounce of contributing. Wushin and other developers have spent money and time on day to day basis to improve TMW. What do they get for putting all that effort ? Criticism of abusing power ? Really ? Wushin abusing or against the rules ? I wonder if anyone actually talked with wushin. As far as i know TMW is free and the project will accept any contributions and suggestions they receive. I'm pretty sure that TMWC would accept even contributions and suggestions from platyna too. Just get over the issue with platyna. Platyna is still welcome to do the contributions and work in team. Also please refrain from using offensive language against anyone over internet. Let's all follow the ethics.

[blackrazor]

There are many people who goes on complaining about developers and GMs without doing a single ounce of contributing. Wushin and other developers have spent money and time on day to day basis to improve TMW. What do they get for putting all that effort ? Criticism of abusing power ? Really ? Wushin abusing or against the rules ? I wonder if anyone actually talked with wushin. As far as i know TMW is free and the project will accept any contributions and suggestions they receive. I'm pretty sure that TMWC would accept even contributions and suggestions from platyna too. Just get over the issue with platyna. Platyna is still welcome to do the contributions and work in team. Also please refrain from using offensive language against anyone over internet. Let's all follow the ethics.

Yours is a straw man argument, albeit well meaning. Contribution is not a licence to break the rules nor to make up new rules and apply them in an ad hoc manner. That's like saying Nixon should never have been impeached, since he did so much more work for the USA than the average apathetic citizen just minding his own business. Heck, by your argument, Platyna should still be in charge, because she did so much after Bjorn and Elven basically gave the server to her; she ran it, provided free hosting, gave so much time and money, and really there would be no game at all today if she hadn't put all her effort in, at that critical point in time. But you see, things don't really work that way; she was basically impeached for her alleged behaviors, in spite of all her very real contributions. What applies to Nixon, Platyna, Frost, and o11c also applies to Wushin.

[deepthought]

So you go arguing about this forever ? I there any stop to it ? Stop or no, platyna would never be in control like before. The best she can do is be a member of TMWC where i understand each gets one vote. Maybe she can take revenge. Make the original server lot better with more quests, items. Then all players will play there. That's the only way she can kickass. This is my last post in this thread.

[Altus Institute]

Wushin and other developers have spent money and time on day to day basis to improve TMW.

Only them?
Its for that reason they can insult everyone, or bully artists by their demands?
Lets me explain something to you even if you are so much enlighten, that you cant see the reality.
What artist can say something even they are against what wushin doing?
No one.
If some artist say something against him, there is some big luck that their art will not be included in the game, see how many artists left this project to understand it, if you are not capable to see this simple evidence, plz dont come at us like a savior, or a full minded guy. You still understand nothing so please keep your sit, keep your place and like you want to say to the others stop complaining, i can say it to you too, stop complaining against complainers, by complaining about complainers you became a complainer too, seems you dont understand your own act.
And since Srinitay said that he want to be a proper moderator forum, i will help him and not insulting you. But pls stop being ridiculous, ok shame dont kill but try to stop to be ridiculous.
You always showing your face only if cassy and wushin post something, you cant do something without them?
How cute you are.
Im supporting you

Really ? Wushin abusing or against the rules ? I wonder if anyone actually talked with wushin. As far as i know TMW is free and the project will accept any contributions and suggestions they receive. I'm pretty sure that TMWC would accept even contributions and suggestions from platyna too. Just get over the issue with platyna. Platyna is still welcome to do the contributions and work in team. Also please refrain from using offensive language against anyone over internet. Let's all follow the ethics.

oh you came after the war.
Nobody talked to wushin???
the project will accept any contributions and suggestions????
to avoid spamming, plz read all others post about the subject, AND please by stopping to be ridiculous you not only helping yourself, but you even help the carrots to grow up and to worms to laugh quietly in the ground. Can you even understand it????

I'm going to ignore that you just insulted me.

You are a real princess, does disney contacted you for some job?

Besides, please don't be one of those persons not knowing the huge history of a certain topic or person but acting as if.
I have about 100 reasons (this number could actually even be true!) to not take him serious.
So with all respect, as long as you don't know them, let me post memes as reply in this spam topic.

You insulted ppl with your meme Cassy, but seems you cant understand it, pls read all our previous post before, to not be so ridiculous.
If you find this thread is full of spams, please read the previous post about and you will understand why its full spammed.
Dont come after the storm like fresh fully minded guys knowing everything about the subject.
Or you know it, or you just continue to ignore some things that we have talked about, and finally you are not so full minded.

And finally like deepthought post you are just a hair in the soup.
So like you said with your meme picture, if you didnt read what we have wrote, how can you talk about us??
How can you post about the subject, or even understand it?
Please, take deepthought with you and go back in your hole.

I'm not going to let the forums get boogered up with a bunch of different flame/troll threads.

did you even read the post?
Obviously no.
So continue with the same attitude, and let us laugh about it.

lets keep it all in one place so we know what kind of steaming piles play/played this game.

I missed something?
steaming piles play this game?
They are the same as the steaming piles who think they leads the project with a pink/blue mind.
You continue to despise the players?
You dont deserve to lead the project.
You think that you are innocent and a poor victim?
and this ugly whole world is full of despicable trolls and complainers who cant do something else than being abject.
How have you can be survive in this world? you are a true survivor.
Finally the best is that you keep your mouth close to not be ridiculous any more.
and continue to play the leader.
I will help you a bit.

Ps : deepthought, nobody said that the project want platyna back, ppl said that what you said about Platyna you do the same in worse....i thought that you have understood it since all post said the same thing.
Ah yes like Cassy, you dont read post, you just continue to imagine things about....

[Cassy]

I look forward to the day when Wushin and Cassy go the way of Frost and o11c.

Basically you are saying that I should be nice to someone who treats me bad, spreads stupid rumours about me, insults and tricks me.
Sorry, but you can't except me to play someone's fool that hard.
I'm a very helpful and also patient person, same in my real life job where I have to deal with difficult customers, but there's always a line.

Btw why Frost? Are you confusing something there?