bat caves bot

[iggyy]

there is a guy named kenneth in the bat caves and for the past 3-4 days hes been walking back and forth with a bow. he does short steps and is probably using a program that holds down ctrl + a because every time he stops he shoots a bat. hes been autoing in there way to much and i think he should be banned or something of the sort to let him know that its not ok to cheat or use programs to give you an advantage over other players.

[iggyy]

forgot to mention this before. he occasionaly comes back online for a little to kill some bats himself and buy arrows and then goes back to autoing after a while

[Slave]

ive seen this first hand, and when kenneth finally did return to his computer ( to buy arrows)his attitude was very disgusting and unpleasant. like we were imposing on his right to speed train like that.

[Squrd]

he could just be putting something on a and ctrl like a weight, I believe the real solution is to have a limit on the client like kick a person after being idle for more than 20 minutes that way people doing that would have to log back in, in order to leave their PC and lvl. I dont know how difficult it would be to script that but I had a script like that on the game I made.

[Booty]

he could just be putting something on a and ctrl like a weight, I believe the real solution is to have a limit on the client like kick a person after being idle for more than 20 minutes that way people doing that would have to log back in, in order to leave their PC and lvl. I dont know how difficult it would be to script that but I had a script like that on the game I made.

The "better" bots are using automation programs. a logoff and logon is easily incorporated. All this solution will do is make another (small) hassle for the honest players.

I posted this possible solution in suggestions.

So are you suggesting that we give potential bots the Turing test? jk

Maybe a In-game flagging system.

Trusted players are given the ability to flag another player for certain behaviors, like bot-ing

And say the flags last a certain length of time, say nine hours, before expiring

Individually the flags do nothing but say a player gets flagged five times, and all the flags are still active, the player gets banned.

Keep in mind that each trusted player can only have one active flag on another player.

The bans should double in time each time, stating short then long.
1st ban 1hour, second two hours, third 4 hours, fourth eight hours. or some other exponential progress.

The idea is to punish the player lightly at first for mistakes, and heavily if it continues. Also lighter first punishments help prevent honest player that were wrongly banned from leaving permanently.

Ideally flag could be made through the chat window
Trustworthy:/flag botgamer this is the reason

and ideally a publicly viewable log could be made, with a 24 hour delay to prevent bots from reading it.

Also ideally the trusted players would not be in the same clique or formal group, but this would be harder to do.

The idea is to let the players do their own enforcement, thus saving the developers time, while not giving too much power individuals but rather distribute it.

To further prevent abuse and save the developers time, another group of trusted players should be selected. These players would act as appeals judges with the ability to revoke set flags/bans and reset ban counters (meaning the wrongly banned wouldn't be banned for a second ban length for their first real ban.)

These appeals judges would not have the ability to flag/ban players, only revoke.
Ideally they would visit the forums on a regular basis and promptly address any concerns over a player ban.

The appeals judges would oversee the flagging players and given, lets say, a three judge recommendation, they can either recommend removing flagging privileges from a player or do so themselves (probably through another flagging system with a longer flag expiration). Any judge player action must be reported on the forums following an established form, so that it is a matter of public record. I don't think it is necessary for flagging players to report on the forum, the server log should suffice, if such a log is unavailable then they probably should report in the forum but in a locked section that is not viewable by the public (to prevent bots from reading).

The idea is that someone watches the watchmen. Or the players watch themselves watching themselves.

This system if set in place should allow for minimal developer involvement in enforcing developer established rules by making the player police themselves. Only in extreme cases where there is multiple corrupt judges would it be necessary to for the developers to intervene.

In cases of corruption of flagging players and judging players, such as blackmail or taking bribes, those offending players should have their accounts removed, meaning the characters, gold, inventory, all gone. Players should only be accepted as flaggers and judges on the condition that it is possible that they might be wrongly accused and found guilty of corruption and they run the risk of the consequences. With great power comes great responsibility.

Lesser penalties may apply for other mistakes, such as enforcing non-existent rules. In, which case a revocation of their privileges might be more appropriate.

The real key to this working is good oversight by the judges. Careful selection of those would be necessary.

Sound feasible/reasonable?

Booty

[itsnottv]

booty, i really really tried to keep a straight face while reading your post but the longer i could was for about 2 seconds, is it just me that can see how stupid this people has become or is everybody without a clue?, Booty I'm not trying to insult you here or anything like that i just think you have some serious mental issues and could definitely use some phycological help, there is a fine line between reality and fiction and you don't seem to know the difference, i doubt most people reading this would actually understand my point, but i figured to give it a shot anyways... peace

[Booty]

booty, i really really tried to keep a straight face while reading your post but the longer i could was for about 2 seconds, is it just me that can see how stupid this people has become or is everybody without a clue?, Booty I'm not trying to insult you here or anything like that i just think you have some serious mental issues and could definitely use some phycological help, there is a fine line between reality and fiction and you don't seem to know the difference, i doubt most people reading this would actually understand my point, but i figured to give it a shot anyways... peace

Thank you for your concern about my mental well being! You must have a profound sense of the human condition if after passively reading a forum post you can determine that I'm a delusional. I posted the recommendation not because I really care about botters but because if people really want them out of the game it is not going to be easy and it is difficult to be fair and not abuse the system while also not tying up developer resources. Even my lengthy proposal is incomplete and leaves out many important details.

The point is there is no simple, elegant, or effective solution in dealing with bots so people should just come to terms with bots. As the game is setup I don't see how a bot can make a significant impact on game play if everyone just ignores them.

But thanks for your post itsnottv, it really contributed something useful to the conversation and the topic. I hope everyone can learn from your example.

Oh and just one little thing. If you perceive the difference between reality and fiction as being a fine line you might want to reevaluate the differences. Worlds apart.

[Platyna]

We couldn't care less what you seen, since I am very offten seeing white mouses. Post the proof evidence or do not post.

Regards.