Reasons why people vote for a good gm

[thedarkfinder]

Ingame, they already have to some effect. But the fact that there are so many voters who voted against amongst the 100+, doesn't this say something about Tiana?

You've got to stop and wonder, WHY do so many people not want Tiana as a jGM?

I will give you one good reason.

http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopi ... w=viewpoll

13 people wanted no gm at all. Tiana or anyone else.
Now delete the people that have logged in 2 or 3 times with different accounts. Oh my.

Now lets remember there is about 100 or so players online at any given time, so maybe 500 total accounts. Everyone seems to have a mule. so 250 accounts are individuals. Now only about 1/2 come on to the forums. so about 125 are really here, about 40 or so do not care. So about 85 people are really here and voting.

This is why it should be done in game. Only with accounts greater then 6 months, and lvl 80.

People that play the game will get to vote in it. 6 months would cut down on fraud. lvl 80 could cut down on fraud.

I mean, has S.E.E even read this, voted and understood it?

The point is that people that do not read or speak english are screwed. People who avoid the forums because they do not want to see porn are screwed.

The people that are blessfully wacking at flowers and ignoring the world are being screwed.

Because the powers that be could not sound out an idea on the people the have power over.

So yes, I can see why there is 30 people against. That is also why they hide in darkness.

[Kage]

We would do it game based... but eA doesn't have the ability to do it...

... ManaServ will be better.

[Jaxad0127]

We would do it game based... but eA doesn't have the ability to do it...

... ManaServ will be better.

eAthena could, but it'd be very messy and buggy. So, no, we won't.

[Maxxie]

You have great ideas and a great mind tdf. That's all I have to say; I agree 100%

[meeps]

People who do not wish to have GMs, have the right to vote no and render the system useless. (Which it is)

Having the most votes means your popular, which means that you are too connected to the people within the game to be an effective GM. (taking your friends word, maybe giving favors such as spawning monsters) GMs should be ghosts disconnected from the world banning and kicking those who brake a rule(Troublemakers should just disappear). GMs should speak and interact as little as possible (you don't want a paladin for justice speaking on a podium, as this only makes people want to brake the rules just to mess with the blowhard/showoff GM)

[Maxxie]

We would do it game based... but eA doesn't have the ability to do it...

... ManaServ will be better.

eAthena could, but it'd be very messy and buggy. So, no, we won't.

I have A work around Idea how about make it a quest. Have A NPC give out A vote card to players over 80. Those players can give their card to a Player they want to be GM and if that person accepts the card then they must want to be a GM and have the rules and ridicule that comes with it. At the end of the vote the players can give them to the administrator in town on a set date where all the players can see.The player with the most vote cards does not win but is put into service for the game. Then there could be a announcement made to everyone that a New jr.GM has come to be. it has its flaws but so does everything else you can do.

[enchilado]

Its biggest flaw is making it available for level 80s and over. Its second biggest is having no means of prevention for people making hundreds of mules. Its third biggest flaw is that it's overly complex. Its fourth biggest flaw is that you fail to understand that the current system is the best one feasible at the current time.

Apart from that, it's an excellent plan

[Maxxie]

O joy I knew it was good but "excellent" Wow you do me too much Honor.

-Its biggest flaw is making it available for level 80s and over.
thats because only players that play that much should have a vote because they have been around to see how the game runs and how to spot a bot

-Its second biggest is having no means of prevention for people making hundreds of mules
Well thats part of what makes level 80 players needed and the time limit for the event. Anyone that has that many mules 80 and above has enough game time to be considered for a GM spot

-Its third biggest flaw is that it's overly complex
You get an item from a NPC and trade it to someone. wow so complex. Are Queen and GHP has the finale word anyway. Why not make it a live action game event?

-Its fourth biggest flaw is that you fail to understand that the current system is the best one feasible at the current time.

Oh yes thats why there are post like this one, puppet accounts, and those gross spam post. thats the best system by far. Why cant I understand Grrr I FAIL

[iceslice]

Yes, GM choosing is important. Peoples shouldnt consider which candidate is his/her friend while voting. Unfortunately this is the case.


Disclaimer, I voted six "yes" votes & zero "no" vote.

[enchilado]

thats because only players that play that much should have a vote because they have been around to see how the game runs and how to spot a bot

I've been playing a lot since February/March and am still only level 63. Does this mean I don't get a vote?

Well thats part of what makes level 80 players needed and the time limit for the event. Anyone that has that many mules 80 and above has enough game time to be considered for a GM spot

See above.

You get an item from a NPC and trade it to someone. wow so complex. Are Queen has the finale word anyway. Why not make it a live action game event?

Oh-kay. So whoever has the most tickets at the end wins, is that the idea?

Oh yes thats why there are post like this one, puppet accounts, and those gross spam post. thats the best system by far. Why cant I understand Grrr I FAIL

Yeah... and people get banned for sockpuppeting. I guess you could ban people's game accounts for that, but... eh.


But seriously, there's no need for a more messy, more complex system when this one will work.

[Fishie]

Vote in everyall

[Maxxie]

I've been playing a lot since February/March and am still only level 63. Does this mean I don't get a vote

But seriously, there's no need for a more messy, more complex system when this one will work.

Your only 63? I dont want to flame or troll but WHY!? Its easier now more then ever thanks to the Grave Yard to level up. I only been playing since July and stopped for a mouth and a half yet I'm above 80. Its about real game time fighting monsters in a team for hours at a time and completing all available quest without hand outs for items. Its these players that should have the say who the next GM should be not those players that just post on the forums and Sit in town chatting it up, have there mules run around, and just act silly. That is not real game time, that's play time but thats not the point the point is GMs are there for bots and spam attacks. They are not there to chat and do what the players want them too do. this whole thing here is a popularity contest of those that use the forum not a true GM vote of the players

Its illogical to give anyone that signs up on the forums a right to vote for a GM that will be *in game* not on the forums. Like tdf said

The people that are blessfully wacking at flowers and ignoring the world are being screwed.

I came up with this Idea because it is the only way those people get a chance to vote and meet players they didn't know and can see first hand what they are like.Sure it could go all wrong and someone buys out all the tickets but hey everyone that cares will be there in game to say their little part with their ticket in hand to give to anyone they wish. at the event the GHP and Queen can make the decision right there in front of us all based on; 1 how many tickets the player has; 2 How they answer on the spot questions to see if they can handle the job; 3 How the players at the event act to them be coming GM


There could be multiple events for the different time zones in case someone only plays at a certain time. I just feel that A vote like that would give a real count for people that truly play TMW not just those that pass though

but yes No vote for you till you level up mister

also I hear what Jax* is saying about a complex in game poll being messy and buggy but a simple NPC with a level requirement that gives out tickets is not. The rest is nothing more then human input and the trade window

[DarkLord]

[Maxxie]

and so it is and you know what those 80 plus players probable dont even care who the GM is anyway I just came up with the idea after thinking about what thedarkfinder posted here

I think the Queen just needs to randomly pick someone if GHP really wants new GMs I just dont know anymore

[Crush]

Note that the current GM voting is not a democratic election. Those who "win" the election will not automatically become GMs but merely considered to become one.

9. If a person collects the required votes, a supplied evidence will be analyzed by the other GMs and developers.
10. However, final decision is still our.

The voting is just to determine if there are people who fulfill one of the criteria to become game masters - being trusted by the community. One criteria of many.