Why monarchies fail.

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Re: Why monarchies fail.

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thedarkfinder wrote:
daemonowner wrote:i hate to break it to you but 13 women for 27 men is 13w/40people
which is my point.

You can not confuse portions to ratios.

Ratios are whole things.

1 woman is 100% woman.
1 man is 100% man.

You can not have 1 of 3 parts of the man be a woman, and count it as woman.

She is say a ratio of 3:1. She is saying she has "3 full units" of "1 unit" or 300% of that unit.

If you have a room with 13 women and 27 men. You have 48% less women then men. Or a ratio of 13:27. <---she was asking for this. There to be 33% less no votes per yes votes.

If you want to know the total ratio of people to women, you have to count total possible units, 40 then take 13 from that. Which is 13/40 of the people are women. In this case 33% of the total population is women. <----but changed to this because it was a greater number.

Since portions scale better then ratios, she wants a ratio, basically making it impossible to get her magic number. She is playing a math game with us, redefining units.

It is moving the bar. Asking for 1/3 not 1/4.

she was asking the ratio between the yes and no votes. Now she is asking for the ratio between the yes votes and the total votes.
No. A ratio of 3:1 does not mean 3/1 or 100%. It means 3 of the first for every 1 of the second (which does mean the first is 300% as much as the second, which makes sense).
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3:1 ratio is 75% to 25%. Correct?
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baseballboy wrote:3:1 ratio is 75% to 25%. Correct?
Read your math books!
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jaxad0127 wrote: No. A ratio of 3:1 does not mean 3/1 or 100%. It means 3 of the first for every 1 of the second (which does mean the first is 300% as much as the second, which makes sense).
me, myself, and I wrote:She is say a ratio of 3:1. She is saying she has "3 full units" of "1 unit" or 300% of that unit.
If she wants 300% of the first unit. Then she wants 1/3 less of the second unit then the first unit. Do you see. 33% less. Not one 1/4 less. 33% less. Do you see. You have 300 units of A. To get B to be a 3:1 ratio, you must have 1/3 less of them. OR 33% less. This is what she originally wanted. Which has been changed.

Which I have been saying all along.

I give up. I am I give up. It is pointless. We are now playing math games.
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thedarkfinder wrote:
jaxad0127 wrote: No. A ratio of 3:1 does not mean 3/1 or 100%. It means 3 of the first for every 1 of the second (which does mean the first is 300% as much as the second, which makes sense).
me, myself, and I wrote:She is say a ratio of 3:1. She is saying she has "3 full units" of "1 unit" or 300% of that unit.
If she wants 300% of the first unit. Then she wants 1/3 less of the second unit then the first unit. Do you see. 33% less. Not one 1/4 less. 33% less. Do you see. You have 300 units of A. To get B to be a 3:1 ratio, you must have 1/3 less of them. OR 33% less. This is what she originally wanted. Which has been changed.

Which I have been saying all along.

I give up. I am I give up. It is pointless. We are now playing math games.
The rules were originally worded to imply < 1/3 of the total votes could be negative. Not < 1/3 of the yes votes. That's a 2:1 ratio (66%/33%). What was intended is state rather clearly now. Total negative votes must be less than a third of the total positive votes. Min 3:1 (yes:no) ratio. With the clarification, this discussion is pointless.
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JAX wrote: The rules were originally worded to imply < 1/3 of the total votes could be negative. Not < 1/3 of the yes votes. That's a 2:1 ratio (66%/33%). What was intended is state rather clearly now. Total negative votes must be less than a third of the total positive votes. Min 3:1 (yes:no) ratio. With the clarification, this discussion is pointless.
which is why I am *****ing, because now the no votes must be less then or equal to 1/4 not 1/3. You just said 1/3. That is why I am *****ing. You understand.

The rules where changed and you admit it.

It was 1/3 and now it is one 1/4. The number of yes votes increased from 66% to 75%. Changing the rules.


There is a difference between proportional ratios and whole ratios. You can not have it both ways. You can not say that it is a whole ratio then decide it is a proportional ratio. You can not do it. It is one or the other.

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FFS. Seriously.

The NO votes must be no more than 1/3 of the YES votes.
The NO votes must be no more than 1/4 of the total votes.

What don't you get?
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poison_ivy wrote:FFS. Seriously.

The NO votes must be no more than 1/3 of the YES votes.
The NO votes must be no more than 1/4 of the total votes.

What don't you get?
Because it was the no votes must be no more then 1/3 of the total votes. Honestly, and the rules have changed once that number was met. She is playing math games because this was never really serous to begin with.

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Re: Why monarchies fail.

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FYI this isn't a monarchy, it's a Duck game. Either put up with it or go get a life, seriously.
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