Taking advantage of Opportunities (TMW Development)

[yourmistakes]

i have to agree here. most of the devs are too busy working on manaserve to give much of a crap about the current server, and the gameplay is becoming stale. we get our events and then it goes back to the same thing. i've been playing this game for 6 months now and not one permanent quest has been added. the way i see it, if we have coders and artist and scripters willing to take advantage of the lull and show they can do something useful, then why not give them the opportunity?

[Jaxad0127]

I'll have you know that many devs have been feverishly working on another event. I've been working on new content too.

[Platyna]

Slicer is free to make patches as everyone else, they of course will be reviewed by those responsible for development, who forbids him? No one.

TMW is not dead etc. updates in usual interval which usually depends developers have free time or mood to do so - yep, that's the disadvantage of free games, bear with it.

Regards.

[enchilado]

After this event (not that I've done much work on it =P ) I will be working on a permanent quest with new maps and other things. The maps are almost complete, they have been for a while, and hopefully it shouldn't be too long before it's all done. And after that, I'll be doing more stuff for the eAthena server.

[Necromokron]

If I had some ideas, I'd gladly (attempt to) make some new clothes or something.

[supermanfan]

i don't know how people think tmw is dead, there's admins on 24/7, unless the server's down. and aren't the devs working on CR1?

[Freeyorp101]

New content is welcome for all platforms, though finally getting a good public manaserv server out would be nice.

When you have a specific idea though, it's best to ask in #tmw-content or #tmw-dev (the former for spoiler related discussion, please read terms of use on the topic ) on irc.themanaworld.org to see whether your idea would be suitable (or if it or something very similar isn't already being worked on elsewhere)

It also serves as a nice place to remind me of past almost finished (or in some unusual cases, completely finished) works that were forgotten - I'll usually get around to them eventually, but if you have something specific in mind, it's generally best if you remind me about it.


---Freeyorp

[Rotonen]

i don't know how people think tmw is dead, there's admins on 24/7, unless the server's down. and aren't the devs working on CR1?

Perhaps because there is not that much new content pooring into the server you're playing on currently?

Both are being worked on in parallel. My main focus is on CR1.

[Crush]

Sometimes it feels to me like the people who are currently in charge of the old server are not doing enough to support new contributors since I left.

The graphic and content development boards are full of people who would like to help but are mostly ignored by the current eA content development. Yes, some of them might be quite awful, but instead of ignoring these people they should be informed about what's wrong with their contributions and how they can acquire the skills to do better.

Yes, I know, Manaserv and CR1 have priority (and that's good) but it is still a shame to waste that much potential. Potential which could later be directed towards Manaserv when they are integrated into the team.

When you don't have the resources to manage these people, then pull someone on the team to do the managing like I did with Jaxad0127 two years ago.
http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3620 (the linked forum is hidden for non-devs)

[Bertram]

Hi,

When you don't have the resources to manage these people, then pull someone on the team to do the managing like I did with Jaxad0127 two years ago.

Indeed, the tA content management team is kinda unclear.

As an average developer, I'd be glad to help porting content to the current tA, even as a low priority task, but I would need then to know what I have to port with the team assertion.
As I can see, and as far as I know, there is no public coordination in the tA side of the mana world content, I'm then feeling uneasy to choose random contributions I'm finding "good" enough and push them into the tA server content repository.

I think a function is open for someone for sorting, gathering, and coordinating content porting to the tA server, or maybe someone does and I didn't know?

For the rest, Thorbjorn, Crush, Freeyorp, Jaxad and I are currently (indeed) focusing on client stabilization and manaserv development.
4144 is making a excellent work with his client specialisation patch.
Some other developers I apologize to have forgotten are also pushing nice things.

Rotonen, AxlTozz, IvanMorve, Fother ... are also bringing nice new content for CR1.

CR1 has got summary management pages in the wiki brought in the User: wiki pages of AxlTrozz, Crush, i, and others. There are weekly summar on a specific thread.

The tA content has none of these things, thus explaining the lack of new content porting.

Best regards.

[supermanfan]

i don't know how people think tmw is dead, there's admins on 24/7, unless the server's down. and aren't the devs working on CR1?

Perhaps because there is not that much new content pooring into the server you're playing on currently?

Both are being worked on in parallel. My main focus is on CR1.

im playing server.themanaworld.org or whatever. c: i don't pay attention to content.

[DarkWater]

Guys, sorry to break the bad news. This server is dead. I do not mean to hurt feelings but look above. It is all finger pointing. Look. Read what was just posted by the "people in charge".


There are 3 problems. 3.

1.) The people that are currently in power love to play mind games with each other. They feel personal power moves are more important then game development. This will not change until the group holding power, stops holding power. It is not that they are bad people, it is that there is zero chance for them to get along. They can not get along because of personal power trips. Jaxad is working very hard on themanaserver. To get away from platyna. Platyna works very hard at school and studies. Crush is no longer here to ridicule anyone. The power structure has reach what all monarchies reach, stagnation. And this is the end of the monarchy, and we will only see stagnation. Because all they have have no new tools left(the tools have gained power, moved on, or just too bitter to speak up). They only have hammers and therefor all the problems become nails.

2.) The "final say" never happens. If you want to test, update, or add new content, you are better off starting your own server. (Hell there is not even a test server up and running.) They will not help you. They will just ignore you. I can point at 4 or 5 really good quest that would use current items and maps. And guess what, nothing will happen. Hell they could reissue past quests. But they will not. Tophat, elf hat, fairy hat could all be redone. You could easily make quest for the many unreleased items. But no. The people that have the "final say" never say anything. Nothing is done because no one wants anything to be done. Stagnation.

3.) The community has learned to be f*&king babies about content development. Unlike amun, zero people are willing to step up and join forces. But amun, sweety, even if we did get together the above two problems still exist.

Now I have been called ambitious of stating how we can fix these 3 problems. So I will only Female dog, wolf, fox or otter, because I am left with only a hammer.

[Bertram]

Bad or good news,

I'm not feeling of being part of a dead project. I'm just pointing a position to be filled up.
No big deal, really.

Best regards.

[DarkWater]

Bad or good news,

I'm not feeling of being part of a dead project. I'm just pointing a position to be filled up.
No big deal, really.

Best regards.

I never said the project was dead, just this server.

[Freeyorp101]

I can point at 4 or 5 really good quest that would use current items and maps.

I you have something specific in mind, please do.


---Freeyorp