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Player-set

Post by stava » 28 Feb 2010, 11:52

This is topic where I'll work on player-set. To do list (and what's done for now):

Stand
Walk - Done
Sit - Done
Dead - Done
Run (necessary?)

Dagger attack - Done
One hand swing attack with shield potential
Two hand swing attack
Attack animation for weapons which have a long stick in them

Bow - Done
Crossbow/gun (necessary?)

Prepare magic
Cast magic (1 frame?)
I didn't make any of those that are marked as done (for now).
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Re: Player-set

Post by stava » 28 Feb 2010, 11:59

Image Preparing spell/casting spell?? (I don't know if it's accepted.)
Image Two Hand Attack #1 (Working on it)
Image Two Hand Attack #2 (Working on it)
Image One Hand Swing With Shield Potential

Could somebody please animate Two Hand Attack #1 in 2 pics
1 where are all frames and other where are only last 2 frames
Also Two Hand Attack #2
1 where are all frames and other where are only 2nd and 3rd

These sprites are still being worked on. :wink:
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Re: Player-set

Post by Jorad » 28 Feb 2010, 12:39

Heres the 2-handed and the 1-handed will come shortly
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and only the 3rd and 4th

In the next post

EDIT: Heres the other
2handed2.gif
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and 2nd and 4th frame only for 2handed2
2handed2_2and3.gif
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Re: Player-set

Post by stava » 28 Feb 2010, 12:54

No.. I want 4 gifs.
On 1st gif all frames from 1st picture.
On 2nd gif frame #3 and frame #4 from 1st picture
On 3rd gif all frames from 2nd picture.
On 4th gif frame #2 and frame #4 from 2nd picture

I'll give you 20k, sorry it's confusing
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Re: Player-set

Post by Jorad » 28 Feb 2010, 12:57

Heres the 3rd and 4th from the first one
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Re: Player-set

Post by stava » 28 Feb 2010, 13:15

Here are animated, I'd like to know which one is best.. xD
Image Animated Two Hand Hitting #1
Image Animated Two Hand Hitting #1 (With less sprites)
Image Animated Two Hand Hitting #2
Image Animated Two Hand Hitting #2 (With less sprites)
Image Animated One Hand Swing Attack With Shield Potential
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Re: Player-set

Post by Rotonen » 28 Feb 2010, 13:21

Anyone against #2 2-frame animation and why? Especially if you glide the sprite a bit forward via XML magic and use a motion trail on the actual weapon animation, it should prove to be a good one.

If no one objects, it should be safe to progress doing the side view for it.
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Re: Player-set

Post by Crush » 28 Feb 2010, 13:45

There are transparent pixels in the player sprites. Please edit them with a graphic manipulation program which can handle transparency or you are damaging them.
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Re: Player-set

Post by stava » 28 Feb 2010, 13:55

Crush wrote:There are transparent pixels in the player sprites. Please edit them with a graphic manipulation program which can handle transparency or you are damaging them.
Not really paying attention to such things atm xD
Trying to make the movements I'll fix that stuff later when I shade it and all.
Could you tell me your favorite of them? I'd like to get votes from admins on this game..
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Re: Player-set

Post by Jorad » 28 Feb 2010, 15:03

just a little tidbit.... if you alternated #2 2 frame so he swung left then right it'd add a little variance that could look pleasing
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Re: Player-set

Post by stava » 28 Feb 2010, 21:17

Jorad wrote:just a little tidbit.... if you alternated #2 2 frame so he swung left then right it'd add a little variance that could look pleasing
Good idea. :D
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Re: Player-set

Post by bcs86 » 28 Feb 2010, 23:37

That is great. That is wonderful. Those efforts may very well lead to the end of the playerset bottleneck. I'm thrilled.

Now, on the technical side of things, I hope you are working with a project file or at least have been saving the individual frames in a lossless format, because these sample-merged GIF animations don't provide a good base to work on without hours of repair jobs. This makes it difficult for others to pitch in. Don't get me wrong, GIF is our friend when conducting previews.

Here is what I'm trying to describe:
2h-giffy.png
This takes a while to sort out. I doubt that it is your sole resource. It looks like you are simply doing a rapid prototyping phase. This is good, but please don't lose your progress.

As for programs that support layering and 32 bit color (a full alpha channel) I use the GIMP. You may also like Paint.NET which is free also, but you'll have to download a bunch of MS libraries, or install mono to use it. I'd go with a compiled program like GIMP that doesn't depend on slow interpreters. Fother uses Photoshop, GIMP opens .psd documents. Photoshop is overpriced and torrentz of it are trouble.

This image shows the layering process and how the alpha channel helps get a lot more done:
2h-4-ss.png
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Re: Player-set

Post by stava » 28 Feb 2010, 23:49

Don't worry about the outlining and stuff, it'll all be perfect once it's finished.
I was just making the movements so we decide which movement looks best, from what side should he hit, how many sprites could we use..
I also tried to make it easy for doing equipment (As Rotonen suggested)
Those pics are gif because they are animated, there are png pics at posts before.

Instead of explaining what I should do, could you please tell me whats your favorite attack move?
And sorry, I'm sticking to MS paint. I really can't wait 10 mins for Gimp to open every time I wanna pixel something, and getting used to a whole new program is quite hard, yet the outcome isn't much better.
MS paint is program I choose because it's simple, easy. I can do exact same shading technique that you need, on MS paint.

And again, please vote for your favorite moves, so I can finish them from all sides, and color them, fix outlining..
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Re: Player-set

Post by bcs86 » 01 Mar 2010, 00:24

Equipment has to be drawn for each frame of each animation of the playerset, so the 2-frame version of the 2 handed attack makes life a lot easier. As Rotonen has voted on. I think there might be a problem doing the motion blurs of weapons with only 2 frames. It might turn out to be a 3 frame animation with the second frame copied in order to do a motion blur. I don't know atm, and it's better to get this out of the way first.
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Re: Player-set

Post by stava » 01 Mar 2010, 02:21

Image
I think this one is best, most realistic xD

Image Two hand swing side view.

Image Two hand swing back view.

Image This would be add to spell casting, 3 sprites instead 1. xD
Image Spell casting 2 sprites (One with raised hands is preparing to cast and one with hands like praying is casting)

Image Added another frame to 1 handed sword and shield swing

Image Sword and shield swing side view

Image Pole arm swing
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