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:lol: Sri you ruined nothing, you just help me to have more fun. tyvm.
And ofc you dont have to move any post.

So i read that you will have a discussion about the complaint i put in the court house.
Second, the issues you raised, offensive names/avatars will be discussed amongst GM's and forum admins and we'll have a ruling about it.
Where i will read your discussion about it?
where i will see your decision about it?


And now what is that?
:arrow: Court house ???

So on this forum the concept of justice is a one way ticket??
I saw only gm or admin can put complaint about "PLAYERS"?? wtf???
If a players want to complaint about something, he have to put a post in "player talk"?? wtf???

Are you kidding the mana community??
talking about community are not included the old farts, the old fashioned, who have already their ticket as membership. And who knew that the manaworld is not a game any more but continuing with dev to lure people saying we need help, we need you, and when someone want to help you break him down !!
Do you want continuing to put dust in people eyes??
Saying all is ok....players cannot understand !!?

Oh my....perhaps you just break down the community and you and your buddies knew it but not me and the true players?
Like you did with the game.... :mrgreen:

So the point is : you are judging the player in a "court house" with your rules...
If a player have a complaint about something corresponding with your rules, you send him in "player talk", where people talking about their pets and theirs new boots??
and lets him talking about... :lol:

A complaint goes in a court house, not where people just talking about everything.
do you understand this?
Is it clear or something is missing?

When people want to complain about some infringement they go in a court house not in the street.

Im sure that you will do something about this kink and you will add in the Court house a thread where the players can put their complaint.

Thx for your comprehension.
19:24:32 wushin So, can you do something?
19:24:52 Altus I can do nothing.
19:25:07 wushin So you are highly capable of doing nothing?
19:25:20 Altus yerp =D
19:25:31 wushin Crap, im only highly capable of doing something...=/
19:25:34 cassy Its ok wu-wu, we all needs to start somewhere...
19:25:43 deepthought wtf
19:25:46 wushin .....
19:25:52 cassy *pokes* deepthought
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Re: The court House

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MadCamel wrote:This is not a discussion forum. It serves as public record for bans or abuse and the resolution thereof.
When we'll have a resolution we'll post it there.
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@Altus Institute:
Of course you are free to complain about a player, no one ever said you are not.

To explain: Court House isn't for discussions, it's mainly for shortly summing up which characters/accounts were punished for which reasons due to the current rules.
If we have issues with the current rules we discuss it in Player Talk.

In this case we have an issue with the current rules because for both of your complaints it's impossible to set a line.
As a forum admin I'm responsible to judge over Meko's avatar and I won't take action here since I don't think it crosses the line I mentioned.
If you don't trust my decision I will talk about it with the team. Just tell me again.

Same story with the character name "Cocaine Ferry".
I'm not responsible for this so my opinion (not too offensive) doesn't count but as Nitay said we, or actually the GMs, first have to discuss this in the team.
We can't just ban him/her cause everyone feels different about what offenses him/her.

But as I mention it:
Altus Institute wrote:talking about community are not included the old farts
Not only I find calling us "old farts" more offensive than both of your complaints, compared to them this is an insult.
I'm kindly asking you to calm down in general and talk in an appropriate tone.
I won't raise an official warning for now.
Thank you.
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[20:24:59] <Cassy> debug npc in crypts!
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Cassy wrote:@Altus Institute:
Of course you are free to complain about a player, no one ever said you are not.

To explain: Court House isn't for discussions, ....
If we have issues with the current rules we discuss it in Player Talk.

In this case we have an issue with the current rules because for both of your complaints it's impossible to set a line.
As a forum admin I'm responsible to judge over Meko's avatar and I won't take action here since I don't think it crosses the line I mentioned.
If you don't trust my decision I will talk about it with the team. Just tell me again.

Same story with the character name "Cocaine Ferry".
...We can't just ban him/her cause everyone feels different about what offenses him/her.

But as I mention it:
Altus Institute wrote:talking about community are not included the old farts
Not only I find calling us "old farts" ...
I won't raise an official warning for now.

Oh its not a lie to keep secret about the real state of this game, asking help and contributors?
For me the dev team lie to the mana community, you asking me to trust you?
Are you kidding me?
I don’t trust LIAR, be sure of this.

Seems you didn't take the importance of the subject, hard porn or soft porn are always porn.
Since its a game and not only the adult play to it but also the child you have to advertise people about the content they can find, that people can use offensive words, and that could hurt the more sensitive.

Of course its not your rules, im aware about it.. :lol:

But your game is based upon the Laws, isn't it?
ask to Meko im sure that he will find several laws to show you.

Since you like to make rules for others, and want people respect YOUR law, you will respect the LAWS.
Its simple, isn't it?


About the char name.
You wrote Cocaine Ferry, is a new one?
Because i wrote about Cocaine Fairy.
If Cocaine is a normal char name, someone can bring a char "I will rape you" or "rape the gurlz" and you will find it normal and fun?
Where do you live?
In sewers?

Since this game, not a game any more but still online and open and PUBLIC not private.
For ALL TYPE of public, Im pretty sure that you will do something in a way or another.
I will let you find what way do you prefer, and i will be there to help you to choose properly.


Its seems that i understood the meaning you gave about the court house, or i didn’t wrote my post.
Its seems you didn’t understood what i have wrote. Can you read it again?
If you don’t understand please tell me i will help you to understand.


About the old fart i didn’t knew it was you, now i know.
For me the old farts and old fashioned are those players who still keep the game freeze saying : "when i started the game its was like that". it was not an insult, but if you see insulting words in "old farts", im pretty sure that Cocaine Fairy and meko's avartar is worse.
Why did you take a sentence for you if you are not concerned?
Oh you got it...
Its the same with the meko avatar and the char name.


I'm kindly asking you to do something in general and do things in an appropriate way.
I won't raise an official warning for now too.

We can still discuss.

The point you have to see:
- the copyright infringement of meko giving hint to use the troll face, in a global announce in game.
- the soft porn, still porn avatar using by meko in a branch of the game, advertised as all public. In fact there is no advertising about the contents that people can find inside this game, so by default for all public.
- offensive character name used by players, administrative team telling that they cant do something about it because its a bias. Cocaine is not a naive name or something considered as safe for people. But the admin staff keep their line saying its not an offensive word.

And be sure that from the beginning im really calm. Im sure that you are aware of it.
If you lacking information about real law ask to meko, he will find some for you.

As wiki translator I contributed to use the metakey who allow the bot engine like google to bring more people to you.
Be sure that i will not let you leads french people in your perverted way. Allowing porn pictures and offensive name saying that the admin team dont find any offense in this or that they will discuss about it someday.

ty for your comprehension.
19:24:32 wushin So, can you do something?
19:24:52 Altus I can do nothing.
19:25:07 wushin So you are highly capable of doing nothing?
19:25:20 Altus yerp =D
19:25:31 wushin Crap, im only highly capable of doing something...=/
19:25:34 cassy Its ok wu-wu, we all needs to start somewhere...
19:25:43 deepthought wtf
19:25:46 wushin .....
19:25:52 cassy *pokes* deepthought
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I take your post that you don't trust my decision about meko's avatar. That's fine, I will forward it to the team. You'll be informed about the result.

But Altus, your tone is absolutely disrespectful and insulting, and this time you called me a "liar".
Once again I'm asking you to calm down, once again I won't give you a warning.
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[20:24:59] <Cassy> debug npc in crypts!
[20:25:02] <Cassy> just a joke...
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Cassy wrote:But Altus, your tone is absolutely disrespectful and insulting, and this time you called me a "liar".
Cas,

Where did you read that im ABSOLUTELY disrespectul and insulting??

There is below the definition of to lie, and liar is the person who practise it.
If you find "liar" is insulting please do and act properly.
you or your team, since you are the lead, i said you, but its you and your team.


But sorry about this.
Can you show me for information, where you or your team or a member of your respectable team have informed the players that you, your team or a member of your respectable team tell OFFICIALLY that the mana world will have no more contents, no more contents = no more interest for this game, isnt it?

Can you read the Reid's post and the following again?
Reid wrote:
meko wrote:
OK NOW I UNDERSTAND, tmw is not a game anymore, thx you to be clear on this point.
TMW is merely a game implementing the TMWA game engine. The main focus is currently on the engine. This means we don't change the game unless the engine requires it or there's a bug. Once we have a solid engine we can start working once again on TMW but we will likely drop TMW and work on the TNMW project instead so that we can burn everything and start over with fresh content.
From here.
Maybe it should be publicly stated that the current tmw devs don't actually plan to extend the current game anymore, some players still think that there're still some stuff going on.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19099
deepthought wrote: File comment: Re Meko's public revelation. Although it's an open secret among the players who interact with developers.
viewtopic.php?f=12&t=19095
Crush wrote:Would you still accept content contributions from people who are not yet involved in development?
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19099


http://dictionnaire.reverso.net/anglais-definition/lie
lie [1]
vb , lies, lying, lied
1 intr to speak untruthfully with intent to mislead or deceive
2 intr to convey a false impression or practise deception



So you(your team, whoever you want) say no more contents and 10 line later you said yes we will do contents.

In Dec 2014, Wushin in a meeting with the players said that the witch cult quest will be released in january 2015....until now this quest is not online.
I come online to play....what is my interest to play a game who is dead??
Can you tell me?
Some people are lawyer, baker or else, some developpers...and some players.
As player i take the game like it is.
If the dev team tell me that they will bring new contents, or if the game is still online, i hope that new contents will be released.
SO UNDERSTAND ME WELL...you said nothing about you will stop to bring new contents ingame, some people knew it but the most part of the players continued to play waiting new contents.

Veryape removed the yellow beret to avoid dev to do a quest about it...
You have no time, you need more ppl to develop, i can understand this but you have to be clear about what you doing with the game "the manaworld".
So telling that you will stop new contents and saying that you will continue to bring contents are sentences to decieve players....and LIARS use this systems to lure people dusting their eyes.

So a fact is a fact, if you find it insulting to be called liar dont lie any more (you or your team or whoever you want, im not really aware about who doing what in your staff)


With Love :D



ps: you found "liar" and "old fart" insulting, and they was not insulting, it was your point of view. Telling that im not calm, and that i have to calm down, im really really calm be sure of this.
So Porn and Cocaine as offensive contents are not only my point of view. Dont forget me about these point ty.
19:24:32 wushin So, can you do something?
19:24:52 Altus I can do nothing.
19:25:07 wushin So you are highly capable of doing nothing?
19:25:20 Altus yerp =D
19:25:31 wushin Crap, im only highly capable of doing something...=/
19:25:34 cassy Its ok wu-wu, we all needs to start somewhere...
19:25:43 deepthought wtf
19:25:46 wushin .....
19:25:52 cassy *pokes* deepthought
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To clarify a few things although they are way off topic:
Altus Institute wrote:Where did you read that im ABSOLUTELY disrespectul and insulting??
Cassy wrote:But Altus, your tone is absolutely disrespectful and insulting, and this time you called me a "liar".
You might also want to realize that I'm not the team lead.
But even if I was you wouldn't have the right to call me a liar since I as person never lied to you.

However, the discussion ends here now.
About your other issues feel free to discuss them in the appropriate thread (viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19099), this thread is about the Court House.
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[20:25:02] <Cassy> just a joke...
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Cassy wrote:To clarify a few things although they are way off topic:
...since I as person never lied to you.
Ok ty about this Cassy.

From my side i stop everything.
Im just a worm and the Mighty Lord asked to show mercy, like He show mercy to me every time in my life.

I made mistake too.
Every one can make mistake Love is still here.

I didn’t do this to insult someone or to hurt. Be sure of this.
But my purpose was else.
So it's meaningless now.

If you feel wounded by me Cassy, Love will heal you.

Have fun with the new game engine and else, have a nice way.

With Love :D
19:24:32 wushin So, can you do something?
19:24:52 Altus I can do nothing.
19:25:07 wushin So you are highly capable of doing nothing?
19:25:20 Altus yerp =D
19:25:31 wushin Crap, im only highly capable of doing something...=/
19:25:34 cassy Its ok wu-wu, we all needs to start somewhere...
19:25:43 deepthought wtf
19:25:46 wushin .....
19:25:52 cassy *pokes* deepthought
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Firstly, the court house is the place where GMs post their rulings so they can be scrutinized by everyone. It is not a discussion thread, not for GMs or anyone else. If someone has a complain they can make it in Player Talk or contact a GM directly.

When a GM finds anything that we feel is inappropriate but not against the letter of the law, and we don't have any history to go with (Naming a char Hitler will get you instabanned for instance) like having a char named Cocaine something the gm's will discuss the matter before acting. GMs are not gods, we are persons and we should seek some kind of consensus before acting to refrain from acting too harsh.

I think this is a good measure to uphold sane GMing, we as other people might be grumpy on a certain day and act too harshly. Right now we might be a bit too slow for everyones liking but we do it to keep the GMing on the right level. Ad Hoc rulemaking is something we don't do, it is really that simple. We apologize to the public if you guys thinks it takes us too much time to make up our minds, bit in the grand scheme of things it is a good thing.

Also, instead of flailing around words such as liar when you disagree with something from the TMWC/a member of TMWC please put forward your arguments in a civilized manner. We don't need any dramas, we are trying to be as drama free as possible :)
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veryape wrote:Also, instead of flailing around words such as liar when you disagree with something from the TMWC/a member of TMWC please put forward your arguments in a civilized manner. We don't need any dramas, we are trying to be as drama free as possible :)
Read my posts before please.

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19:24:32 wushin So, can you do something?
19:24:52 Altus I can do nothing.
19:25:07 wushin So you are highly capable of doing nothing?
19:25:20 Altus yerp =D
19:25:31 wushin Crap, im only highly capable of doing something...=/
19:25:34 cassy Its ok wu-wu, we all needs to start somewhere...
19:25:43 deepthought wtf
19:25:46 wushin .....
19:25:52 cassy *pokes* deepthought
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