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Post by Len » 20 Sep 2007, 23:07

Heres a revision of the monster from my first post
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maybe she can have two floating hands flowing her where she goes
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Post by Crush » 21 Sep 2007, 02:22

I honor your diligence of drawing it in an isometric perspective. But the animation system of TMW only handles orthogonal directions.
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Post by Len » 21 Sep 2007, 06:20

Crush wrote:I honor your diligence of drawing it in an isometric perspective. But the animation system of TMW only handles orthogonal directions.
Guess I wasn’t thinking, its a decent concept at least :oops:
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Post by ElvenProgrammer » 21 Sep 2007, 08:29

It's a nice concept and I already imagine it with two big rocky hands. I don't see the perspective as an issue. We could support only two frames: this one and the mirrored version of it. I won't dislike the idea of having some boss monsters as they were in SOM where they only faced the front view.

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Post by Len » 21 Sep 2007, 19:52

I think something like this would be impossible in TMW because the combat system is so different..

I made a quick mock up based on Dolan from SD3,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjEOTG6w ... ed&search=

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Post by Crush » 21 Sep 2007, 21:14

Well, on the new server with a lot of clever scripting support it could be possible.
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Post by ElvenProgrammer » 22 Sep 2007, 08:39

Len wrote:I think something like this would be impossible in TMW because the combat system is so different..
Sorry but I can't see why
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Post by Raven » 22 Sep 2007, 21:59

An easier way around this would be to segment it.
What I mean is, say that the monster has base hitpoints of around 2400. Each 'hand' would have 500 hitpoints and when it is defeated, you can attack the main body which would have 1400 hitpoints. This would cut down on the scripting maybe? and also the need for making the whole monster as one graphic, instead made up of 3 smaller graphics (Both literally and filesize).

It would also add to the teamwork aspect if a group was attacking it. One person could attack one hand and another, the other.

Just my suggestion :-)
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Post by Pajarico » 23 Sep 2007, 02:58

Len: I watched the video and the animation system is different than the current animations. I'm not saying is not possible, just that currently there isn't anything like that in the game.

I see that the arms of the boss are made from cloned sprites, and these are animated kind like someone was pulling from the strings of a puppet... I guess this would need some serious scripting, I don't think the current animation system does this as you need to script "move sprite A from x1,y1 to x2,y2" instead of "display frame n".

I would want to see what the programmers think about this. Being able to script the movement of sprites would have some advantages:
- No need to do big frames which would take more space and more work to finish.
- Fluid animations for members.
- Cut the number of sprites needed for an animation. If you look at the video you'll see how good the animation of the boss is but, however, how little sprites it uses: hand open, hand closed, cloned sprite for the arms, torso, three or four faces...
- Have dynamic bosses. For example you could cut an arm...

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Post by Crush » 23 Sep 2007, 03:16

I don't think about scripting the animations client-sided but about scripting the behavior server-sided.
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Post by Pajarico » 23 Sep 2007, 03:43

Well, either way i want to get a bit more into deep about this. Technichaly speaking is this planned?
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Post by Len » 03 Oct 2007, 07:34

Created a new boss concept while trying to create a wall tile (don't ask how it became this guy, I'm not even sure)

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Post by Manaboy » 03 Oct 2007, 10:38

XD of Evol online the big slime :) IS cool

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Post by Len » 03 Oct 2007, 17:49

[sarcasm] WOW, Evol online seems so original... where do they come up with this stuff! :shock: [/sarcasm]
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Post by Platyna » 03 Oct 2007, 19:22

Len wrote:[sarcasm] WOW, Evol online seems so original... where do they come up with this stuff! :shock: [/sarcasm]
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