Bot Examination Map?

[Crush]

I noticed that some players who get banned for botting complain that they don't speak english and thus don't pay attention to the chat and for that reason don't realize when a GM wants their attention.

That's why I would suggest to create an empty map where a GM can warp a potential bot for examination. The course of action when a GM examines a potential bot would then be:

1. Speak to the suspect normally
2. Wait a minute for a response or a change in behavior
3. @warp himself to the examination map
4. @recall the suspect
5. Speak to the suspect again and watch for any reaction
6. Ban the suspect after another minute without any change in behavior which looks human. Alternatively a suspect could be left on the examination map indefinitely because there wouldn't be a way to leave without GM intervention.

A human player will, when suddenly teleported to an unknown location, at least start to walk around and examine the area while a bot wouldn't react to the new situation.

[EJlol]

I like the idea of the bot examination map. But do make sure that there is a NPC that tells what happened. Preferable in a few languages. and ofcourse that NPC with all the rules.

[Jaxad0127]

That is the basic concept of the jail map idea we've been throwing around.

[Crush]

I don't like the term "jail map" because when the players hear the phrase they immediately jump into conclusion and want to use it for role playing purposes or even suggest game mechanics for breaking out of it.

Definitely not what we need to examine potential bots.

I just made a bot examination map. I made it as ugly as possible so that noone gets the idea to use the map for any other purpose. When you stand in the center of the map (coordinates 20:20 - easy to memorize) the walkable area fits exactly on the screen so that you can look at all characters which are in the area at the same time.

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[Jaxad0127]

Graphical artifacts shouldn't be a problem there, as the borders are just black. A few NPCs, like one that spouts the rules, would be nice as well.

[Crush]

I would be interested in the opinion of our GMs if using an examination map would make their job easier (better way to get peoples attention) or harder (more complicated test protocol).

[sam_]

It's a good news for me.

Bravo !

[igneus]

I know it's a bit childish, but the new "secret map" is really attractive for me. Thinking how to get there as soon as it's in the game... What is the best way to look like a bot? Stay in bat cave for hours, kill bats and not respond?

[Turmfalke]

honestly I don't like the idea. I looks much like you forget how easily it could be abused. What do think, how much code does it needs to check whether you entered the map and then display a "Hello? Where am I?"? which with our current standard would be enough to prove that you are not a bot.(turing test ftw)

[Jaxad0127]

honestly I don't like the idea. I looks much like you forget how easily it could be abused. What do think, how much code does it needs to check whether you entered the map and then display a "Hello? Where am I?"? which with our current standard would be enough to prove that you are not a bot.(turing test ftw)

The majority of bots aren't programs, but weights on the appropriate keys.

[Crush]

When the botters should get more sophisticated and use advanced bot programs such an isolated examination map would be the perfect place to do such a turing test.

Still waiting for comments from our game masters.

[Turmfalke]

couse we give them an easy to use boot tool. It would be a better idea to change 'a' from "while being pressed" to "when pressed". That way they would have to keep pressing again and again and we wouldn't have so many bots.

anyway, I still don't see the point of giving players a easier way to pass our "turing" test. People who act like bots are bots!

[Jaxad0127]

Instead of a new map, a new mechanic where when they get sent to "jail," .they don't see anyone else and can't change from that map. GMs can still see them all on a single map like Crush described, but the person being investigated won't know they've been changed.

[helan]

couse we give them an easy to use boot tool. It would be a better idea to change 'a' from "while being pressed" to "when pressed". That way they would have to keep pressing again and again and we wouldn't have so many bots.

well, as long as you are planning on buying me a new keyboard every few months... did i say keyboard? i'm sorry, i meant laptop.

[Jaxad0127]

couse we give them an easy to use boot tool. It would be a better idea to change 'a' from "while being pressed" to "when pressed". That way they would have to keep pressing again and again and we wouldn't have so many bots.

Given that we can't ensure that the client will behave like that anyways, and it will be a big annoyance, I see no reason to change.