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Item reference on wiki and monster reference on wiki

Post by Jumpy » 14 Apr 2009, 21:52

hi

Are the numbers uptodate for the different values drop rates for monster and item ?

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Re: Item reference on wiki and monster reference on wiki

Post by 5t3v3 » 15 Apr 2009, 17:07

I haven't checked, but as far as I know, yes it's correct. Even the clovers which are fairly recently added to the game are on that page. To check the current parameters for monsters (their hp, exp, drops, droprate, and so on) look here Although that file is hard to read, and you also have to go look up the item-reference-number
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Re: Item reference on wiki and monster reference on wiki

Post by Jumpy » 15 Apr 2009, 19:25

Thanks

if i see things that would need to be modified is there a tutorial or do i just write it here ?

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Re: Item reference on wiki and monster reference on wiki

Post by Jumpy » 15 Apr 2009, 20:36

Ok created account and will try to understand how it goes before any proposal of modification

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Re: Item reference on wiki and monster reference on wiki

Post by Jumpy » 26 Apr 2009, 22:46

Started to work on it

I just copied and pasted in word the values from the 2 pages you gave to me and then converted to table with ",". Then pasted it in excell to work them properly.

but... would you help me in understanding some values in order to make a good job with this please ?

an example in mob page: for 1002 Maggot
I supose i have to look at Dropid and Drop1er to see the drop rate

Drop1id Drop1per
505 800

what is 505 ? number of item if i refer to the item list: magot slime. ok for that.

how do you calculate the drop in % ? 1 out of 800 ? is that it ? 1 / 800 = 0.00125 * 100 = 0.125 % do we agree ?

how do you reed the items lines ? no mob1id and mob1er :oops:

the answers must seem easy to you not to me. i am discovering.
in my opinion it seems i 'll have all the info in the mob table then will report to the item table.

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Re: Item reference on wiki and monster reference on wiki

Post by Crush » 27 Apr 2009, 11:24

There is a script to do this automatically on the discussion page of the article.
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Re: Item reference on wiki and monster reference on wiki

Post by Jumpy » 27 Apr 2009, 13:59

Hi

thanks again

i register and i am waiting for the confirmation mail to be abble to enter in discussion page of the GIT

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Re: Item reference on wiki and monster reference on wiki

Post by Crush » 27 Apr 2009, 14:30

Discussion page of the git? what are you talking about?

The script for generating the monster reference page can be found here:
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Re: Item reference on wiki and monster reference on wiki

Post by 5t3v3 » 27 Apr 2009, 16:18

Jumpy wrote: an example in mob page: for 1002 Maggot
I supose i have to look at Dropid and Drop1er to see the drop rate

Drop1id Drop1per
505 800

what is 505 ? number of item if i refer to the item list: magot slime. ok for that.
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how do you calculate the drop in % ? 1 out of 800 ? is that it ? 1 / 800 = 0.00125 * 100 = 0.125 % do we agree ?
Drop percentages can be tweaked to hundredth of a percentile. So "Drop1per=800" means you have a drop-percentage of 8.00%
how do you reed the items lines ? no mob1id and mob1er :oops:
Where did you get that "mob1id" and "mob1er" from? That's not on the "mob_db.txt" file...
I'm not sure what you're asking about. Is your question: "why doesn't the item-db-file list which monster drop those items?"? Well simply because it wouldn't make sense to link items to mobs. All the item list is suppose to do is list the characteristics of the items themselves, It's not supposed to list who drops them, there is no purpose for that, the server doesn't "need" to know that information when accessing the item-database. Only when accessing the monster-database does it need to know which monsters drop which items. The most logical way, is that if a monster dies, the server goes to look at the monsterlist, and look up that monster and see what it drops. If you would want to do it the other way around and check all items to see if said monster drops it, that would take longer and provide no benefit over the other method.
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Re: Item reference on wiki and monster reference on wiki

Post by Jumpy » 27 Apr 2009, 18:05

thanks for your answers.

Understood the logic of it and agree with this.

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