Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

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Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by Demonoid » 12 Jun 2009, 15:25

Hello!

The droprate of the new bat wings is to high or the general store price have to be screwed down.
It is to easy money farming and will imbalance the whole economic system in TMW.
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Re: Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by kr0n05931 » 12 Jun 2009, 18:52

The bat wings do need to be lowered in drop rate, as they are doing the exact opposite of last summer's money sinks.
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Re: Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by enchilado » 13 Jun 2009, 10:54

How much do they sell for? I can't play right now.

~maybe I can make some money before they change it!
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Re: Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by Enchilado! » 13 Jun 2009, 10:59

Ahem. So sorry. See, I made this account for this site - that's Poison Ivy. Then I forgot about it and made this one. And so - well, I kind of logged in with that one (Poison Ivy is a username I use a lot) and yes. So.

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Re: Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by Demonoid » 13 Jun 2009, 15:03

when i wrote this text bat wings were 150 each!
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Re: Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by peavey » 13 Jun 2009, 16:32

Both the droprate and sell price (which is 100GP and _always_ was 100GP) are quite balanced. Bat Wings are hardly worth chasing at any level, 'cept maybe as a regular old grind income for a span of 10-15 low levels. After that, you can make much more doing other grinds. Herb collecting and selling is the most lucrative and easy income for very low level players. The new drops provides an alternative while offering levelling advancement, just like the rest of the level spans.

This was sorely missing and that "hole" is now filled.
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Re: Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by Enchilado! » 14 Jun 2009, 00:53

Really? So what's the best way to make money for a level 45?

~maybe I'll just get the bat wings,
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Re: Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by Demonoid » 15 Jun 2009, 10:49

Sorry peavy if i don't share your opinion about the balance of droprate and price but bats drop wings and teeth and the drop rate of dropped wings is higher than the rate of teeth and the teeth only sell for 5 gp in store.

I know it because i collected 1k bat teeth untill now.
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Re: Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by t3st3r » 15 Jun 2009, 14:59

On other hand, without bat wings and teeths it was too hard and annoying to gain moneys at all, especially on low levels, etc. So maybe prices or droprates needs to be reduced but only a bit (game should not be a constant PITA about getting some moneys!And mages and archers need quite many moneys to be happy, so there should be sources for moneys as well). As for me, most annoying stuff at low levels in TMW was a major headache how to earn at least some moneys (all worthy monsters are too hard for beginners, bats seems to correct this). So, overall startup sequence was too hard, boring and too monotonous.

Btw, how about usage of wings and teeths as components for some cool magic spells? I know at least legends that some mages are sometimes used bat teeths for some magic stuff. This will increase demands on them and adds some ways to spend them, hence somewhat reducing per-player income (because many mages will start hunting bats as well :mrgreen:).
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Re: Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by Demonoid » 15 Jun 2009, 17:03

To T3st3r i already thaught about this and had the idea to use bat teeth for some kind of life leech spell.
Btw does bat teeth have any purpose?
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Re: Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by peavey » 15 Jun 2009, 20:02

Demonoid wrote:Sorry peavy if i don't share your opinion about the balance of droprate and price but bats drop wings and teeth and the drop rate of dropped wings is higher than the rate of teeth and the teeth only sell for 5 gp in store.

I know it because i collected 1k bat teeth untill now.
The bat teeth sell for 150GP (always did) since their droprate is lower.

It does not matter how many you collect, that information in itself is worthless.. What you want to know is how many of drop x can I get at level y per hour. Quickly you will see that only for a short span of y is your time worth hunting x. After that your time is better spent hunting the more lucrative alternatives that open up.

Example, my level 90 char can make over 50.000GP/hour without effort. You would have to get 500 bat wings/hour to match this. I tried, I cannot make 500 wings/hour. More like 200 if I really put up a lot of effort.
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Re: Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by Demonoid » 15 Jun 2009, 21:26

Ok you see it in another interrelation. Sure are there other ways for a level 90 to earn money but how many lvl 90 players are in the game and how many level 30?

It has never been my target to critize you or your point of view.

I formed a view by directly comparing the relation of bat teeth and bat wings, both drop rate and price.

On long distance I am sure it could harm the economy in TMW.
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Re: Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by peavey » 15 Jun 2009, 22:47

Demonoid wrote:Ok you see it in another interrelation. Sure are there other ways for a level 90 to earn money but how many lvl 90 players are in the game and how many level 30?
It was just an example as I said. Since I kill bats in 1 hit and have high agi, its really fast for me. At for example level 30 this will be much much slower. By the time its semi lucrative, better options to make more GP will prevail anyways. And yes there are plenty ways to make GP at 90, But I would never dream of wasting time chasing bat wings for GP at any level over 50.
I formed a view by directly comparing the relation of bat teeth and bat wings, both drop rate and price.

On long distance I am sure it could harm the economy in TMW.
That a low level player gets a tad more GP now than before was the whole point. This slight increase in income wont hurt the economy. It might bring the need for 'newbie helpers' down a tad, since we all know how frustrating a certain level span is in the low levels if you don't get help.

When you have made your first million GP, then maybe you'll understand all this better :)
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Re: Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by t3st3r » 16 Jun 2009, 10:13

peavey wrote:That a low level player gets a tad more GP now than before was the whole point. This slight increase in income wont hurt the economy. It might bring the need for 'newbie helpers' down a tad, since we all know how frustrating a certain level span is in the low levels if you don't get help.
Btw, if someone wants to be, say, mage or archer (s)he usually neets awful amount of various expensive stuff (and even good warrior's equipment costs enough or requires to be high-level...). Buying some items still means hours and hours of doing some genocide to bats :mrgreen:. I can't say it is "too easy". It's just chance to have less PITA for beginners, IMHO (and it was a real PITA for beginners without "external" help from other players from my point of view).
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Re: Lower Bat Wing Droprate or Price at General Store!

Post by Jumpy » 16 Jun 2009, 12:33

lot's of quests are developped in roder to gain xp, money item

maybe there should be more quest for low levels in order to have some iron ore or snakes skins to be abble to reached armors sooner as all the items needed for magic are on low levels mobs except the inf helm that goes with spiders.
less beggin maybe...

just an idea

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