My first tile

Post by **Pajarico** » 21 Jun 2005, 04:57

Three version of the same tile:

How would it look:

Post by i » 21 Jun 2005, 05:16

a bit too blured IMO, try to add some random pixels (black or dark green) to improve sharpness.

Post by **ElvenProgrammer** » 21 Jun 2005, 06:51

i wrote:a bit too blured IMO, try to add some random pixels (black or dark green) to improve sharpness.

Yeah too blurred

Post by **Pajarico** » 21 Jun 2005, 07:18

More contrast:

Same as above plus a red vein:

Added some more leaves:

More outline:

Post by **Modanung** » 21 Jun 2005, 08:14

Nice, very nice.
But I agree it's too blurry.

This thread starts to remind me of Johnny the Homicidal Maniac, who is being discribed as "wacky" in one cartoon...

Anyway, yeah, add more detailed structure, not just a contrast filter.
Oh, and I don't really like the red vein, in a way I do, but in a way I don't.

Post by **Pajarico** » 21 Jun 2005, 08:21

Anyway, yeah, add more detailed structure, not just a contrast filter.

What makes you think i did?

I didn't!

Post by **Pajarico** » 21 Jun 2005, 08:28

Post by **Pajarico** » 21 Jun 2005, 10:00

This is the hat that Sull made:

Post by **Modanung** » 21 Jun 2005, 13:41

Pajarico wrote:
Anyway, yeah, add more detailed structure, not just a contrast filter.
What makes you think i did?
I didn't!

Ok, that case I'm really sorry I said that.

Still I think it could use a more sharp structure.

Post by **Bjørn** » 21 Jun 2005, 18:56

A really simple way to get rid of the blurry look, is to scale it down. I think the original looks fine at half its size in the following picture, even though the stone would fit better in a more grassy area.

So Pajarico can basically produce the graphics the way he does, with the blurry result. If he just makes it twice the intended size in pixels, it can be scaled down and should look fine most of the time.

About the grass tiles this stone was showed on above, I think they look great but it's really a different style that the rest of the graphics. Maybe scaling it down to half the size will also make it fit better, as I think the grass blades are too big and lack detail at this size.

Scaled down:

Bear · Post by **Bear** » 21 Jun 2005, 19:38

no offence bjorn, but the graphics Pajarico and Sull made are the ideal graphics for a Secret Of Mana Oriented game...

Im pretty sure when everyone heard of the project (atleast the ones who played SoM) expected more over SoM Graphics style :l

But i do agree it doesnt go with the deset tileset.

Post by **Pajarico** » 21 Jun 2005, 19:48

I'm on the nth preview and still don't know what people mean with too blurry.
I mean, we don't have a predefined style. And in top of that (more important) is a rock.

If i was drawing wooden furniture and you told me "is too blur" that doesn't tell me anything, a good critic would be "is too blur, it doesn't look like wood, emphasize the light tones in the vein, etc.

Say "Make it less blur" to five different people and you will have five different versions.

And I can even accept that in some cases but not for something like a rock. I mean what is a rock? how many rocks have you seen in your life? sure you haven't found two rocks that are equal... rocks can be any color, size, shape and aspect. So, how could you say it's too blurrry? too blurry in comparation with what? does that mean that you can find a rock in the nature with that texture? hell, no.

Please, constructive analysis

Post by **Modanung** » 21 Jun 2005, 20:56

If it were a magnification of a rounded pebble it would be good.
Most rocks of that size I've seen were more... bumped, rough. They were more broken of and scratched and grown with moss.
What most of them looked like.

HaLLanHype · Post by **HaLLanHype** » 21 Jun 2005, 21:06

scaled down it looks better...

but the grass around it on the one pic is too bright green to me

maci · Post by **maci** » 21 Jun 2005, 21:24

right scales looks really nice .. i think that scaled version hammerbear showed us has same quality as Square sprites have

great work Pajarico !!!

My first tile

My first tile

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