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we need updates FAST

Post by Darkfangex » Tue Jul 28, 2009 12:32 pm

we need updates now!!!!!!

the reason being all the DRAMA , ppl quitting is because there hasn't been anything new in the past month , ppl are so bored the female dog, wolf, fox or otter to each other , they start verbally abusing each other , they get pissed at each other and this usually drags players into this nonsense its all because of boredom that a simple dude you look stupid or stop being an ass comment that lights the fire , instead if there was new stuff rolling out it would be , hey can you help me do this , ppl are bored enough to sit in town for 4 hours doing nothing , c'mon we need updates
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Post by Bertram » Tue Jul 28, 2009 2:31 pm

Darkfangex: Could you give an hand on making this advancing, FAST?

http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopi ... &start=210

c'mon, you can do it.
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Post by aroleon » Tue Jul 28, 2009 3:19 pm

Darkfangex wrote:we need updates now!!!!!!
I've been working on some new maps, but I have a real life (with problems :( ) as well.

I see that the programmers have been delivering updates in the last few weeks.

What have you contributed?

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Post by Savi » Tue Jul 28, 2009 6:17 pm

You say that players are leaving because updates and or improvements are not put in place fast enough. There are more people playing now than there was 6 months ago. I can always find something to do when I sign on to play. There are ways to gain hp unless you are level 99 which I am not and even then you can still work on magic. Another thing to think about is that some of the magic require various items. You can always go off to kill mobs that drop those items for future spells.
Updates are always nice but you need people that can create the updates, maps items, monsters etc... The people that are working on all that do their best, they are not paid to do it. Also these great volunteers want to make sure that their work is created properly and have no bugs so it all must pass through different stages before actually making it into the game. I can not pixel so I am no help, but I won't stop playing because there isn't anything new.
Just my 2 cents worth.
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Post by Darkfangex » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:15 am

again its just a suggestion , i wish i knew how to help , the i would spent 12 hours a day doing it :( :( i see ppl arent really doing quests , its the usual earn money gain xp thing , maybe you can get some ideas of things from other branches of the mana world like Aethyra , the monsters drop gp thing is wiered but some of the game content looks good , i might have to check it out again.
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Post by Ces » Wed Jul 29, 2009 1:41 am

No matter how many new (and cool and brilliant and aesthetic and unique and queer and bizarre and ...) maps, quests, sound effects, items, monsters, client features, skins et cetera there is per week, a number of players will prefer to conglomerate en masse and just socialise. If anyone gets bored and have nothing better to do with their life, how about learning to pixel, translate, code a feature, write some backstory, script a quest, tweak some item stats, ...? :mrgreen:

Personally I usually go to sleep.
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Post by Bertram » Wed Jul 29, 2009 10:33 am

Ces wrote: Personally I usually go to sleep.
:lol:

Darkfangex:
Ces wrote: how about learning to pixel, translate, code a feature, write some backstory, script a quest, tweak some item stats, ...?
I'm sure one of those is within your abilities. There so much work to do on this project, you should then get yourself in, instead of listening to complains, or complaining yourself!
There will always be people complaining, abusing others, ...

:arrow: So, why not enjoying what is done, doing something else if you're bored with the game (I'm actually not a true player of the game I help coding), or even better find a way to make it better!

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Post by DragonM » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:33 pm

hey u developer then look at my ideas at "can i suggest something"and please try to realiza them im not a good painter to be a pixel artist:(.But my ideas are great many ppl told me that!):D.
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Post by Crush » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:48 pm

DragonM wrote:hey u developer then look at my ideas at "can i suggest something"and please try to realiza them im not a good painter to be a pixel artist:(.But my ideas are great many ppl told me that!):D.
My todo list is currently full of my own ideas I have to realize.

Our problem is not lack of ideas. Our problem is lack of manhours to realize them.
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Post by fate » Thu Aug 27, 2009 3:56 pm

DragonM and all the others,

thank you for any and all suggestions, but keep in mind

(a) it's already quite a bit of work to add and test a new item with an associated quest
(b) it's still harder to balance everything,
(c) the developers are working on this in their spare time, and
(d) all developers already have their own set of things they want to finish and polish and balance and add.

Thus, proposing new ideas probably won't affect the ongoing development at all. Don't get me wrong-- new ideas are appreciated, but if you suggest something, the likelihood of someone taking up your idea directly is very small; typically, the best you can hope for is to inspire a new developer or to influence a completely unrelated piece of work a few years later.

But please allow me to answer more directly to a different point:
im not a good painter to be a pixel artist:(
"I'm not good enough to do this" is a frequent excuse. Unfortunately, in a volunteer project, saying "I'd love to see X but I can't help with it" normally means that X will never happen. (Unless it's a VERY simple thing and lots of people start shouting for it-- but unfortunately for you, your ideas require some very complex changes, and you have only sketched them very superficially at this point.)

If you want X to happen, you have to do part of it-- if people see that you are serious, they may be willing to volunteer some time to help you. (Or they may not; unless you already have a team, you have to be willing to go `all the way' by yourself.) If you think that you don't have the necessary skills, then acquire those skills. Remember that knowing how to program or pixel or compose music is vastly more rewarding than knowing how to play a game! :-)

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Post by Crush » Thu Aug 27, 2009 4:44 pm

fate wrote: "I'm not good enough to do this" is a frequent excuse.
[...]
If you think that you don't have the necessary skills, then acquire those skills. Remember that knowing how to program or pixel or compose music is vastly more rewarding than knowing how to play a game! :-)
When I started to work on the woodland tileset my experience with pixel art was zero. But with the help of the other artists working on TMW, by reading tutorials and by studying pixel art from commercial games I improved a lot.

You can follow my path to becoming a pixel artist here: http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopi ... t=woodland (urgh, my first tiles were AWFUL)

By the way: The best tutorial for learning pixel art is [Tsugumos "So you want to be a pixel artist"]. I got most of my basic skills from this tutorial. When you read, understood and recreated everything on this tutorial (chapters 1-6 are enough when you only want to do map tiles for now) you aren't far from creating usable work.
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Post by DragonM » Thu Aug 27, 2009 5:52 pm

Ok then...just wanted to tell my ideas and sure ppl would like to play more when new updates are.But i know its hard and i just had in mind maybe when u have nothing to update u can do that:).
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Post by Darkfangex » Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:13 am

suprise supris i am bac , but there are many problems , im 14 , i have school , i want to learn C , teachers on guam are having a competition to fail the most students , (my math teacher mr.murphy wants his record back) , and teachers are doing student raids , its ike they level up on failing students , and im sorry , i dont want to do tilesets , i want to do something along the lines of C programming , or at least starting with PHP but maybe just maybe.......
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Post by skipy » Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:25 pm

Crush wrote:
fate wrote: "I'm not good enough to do this" is a frequent excuse.
[...]
If you think that you don't have the necessary skills, then acquire those skills. Remember that knowing how to program or pixel or compose music is vastly more rewarding than knowing how to play a game! :-)
When I started to work on the woodland tileset my experience with pixel art was zero. But with the help of the other artists working on TMW, by reading tutorials and by studying pixel art from commercial games I improved a lot.

You can follow my path to becoming a pixel artist here: http://forums.themanaworld.org/viewtopi ... t=woodland (urgh, my first tiles were AWFUL)

By the way: The best tutorial for learning pixel art is [Tsugumos "So you want to be a pixel artist"]. I got most of my basic skills from this tutorial. When you read, understood and recreated everything on this tutorial (chapters 1-6 are enough when you only want to do map tiles for now) you aren't far from creating usable work.

thank you crush for the links..i hope thay can help me get started..
now ,i know all the dev work hard and are vary bizy ..i thank all of them for the work and thank them for the game ...like others idd love to help ..there not realy a strate foword way to just jump in and help ..ive done art most of my life ..i like to think im not bad,but i have never worked on anything on my conputer or with a program (or not much) ...i i have tryed to got workinng on some maps ..but like lots of us out there i got lost and had no clue wtf i was doing let alone makeing a map..i hate to say it but ppl like me realy want to help but are not savy anuf to figyer out how to make any of it work for them..and if we line up one by one for you (dev) to hold owr hand nothing would get done....
some one said some thing about a in-game map editor in the log in at one time ...some thing like that would help me lots..
my be theres a realiy smart person out there that can help me help you..

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back to working on---> (crypt)then(player 1.5) and more. *been on hold do to my laptop being fix* any feel free to add/help. ill be up and working as soon as i can ...good luck to all.


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