Petition demanding the reinstatment of all the gms.

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Reinstate the gms as soon as possible

Reinstate all the gms back to the state they where before today.
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Do nothing, let the experiment play out.
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Petition demanding the reinstatment of all the gms.

Post by DarkWater »

Change needs to happen, but you do not the asylum run it self. Turning off the gms was not a smart move, it as not even a considered move. It was a punishment to the players. They have proved there point. Please if you want to change this system, I understand. Please turn back on the gm's. Open a conversation on how to change them and create a system in which control is shared between you and the community.

If you want the community to show support for the gms, fine you have it.

Please vote yes so we can continue on with real change.
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Post by The Scarlet Rhus »

As much as I feel sorry for the GMs, I think that now the experiment has started we should let it run until it is finished. However, I hope all the GMs do get their power back afterwards...

~I still don't get what the experiment will prove...
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Post by Black Don »

Or perhaps it is to do what Bjorn said it was for to help see what areas the GM's are really needed to help out with and give a better perspective for setting up rules and regulations for them to do the job assigned to them.
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The Scarlet Rhus wrote:As much as I feel sorry for the GMs, I think that now the experiment has started we should let it run until it is finished. However, I hope all the GMs do get their power back afterwards...

~I still don't get what the experiment will prove...
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Post by Platyna »

All? Come on. Decide finally what you want guys, or do not write to me hysteric emails, that makes me to waste my precious time to read Chocolate Cupcake logs, 14 page of arguments on forums and annoying Bjorn on IRC. :twisted:

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Post by Booth »

Lmao, where have I been...and i believe there should be 2-3 ACTIVE GM's which the only active GM i've seen lately is Delasia shes been on everyday, I know im a friend of hers but it has nothing to do with being active. Katze and Capt have came on maybe twice a week also, which isn't that bad. But, this is a good way to see how bad the community will turn out, the main thing we don't need is botters besides that GM's aren't needed.
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Post by mightydefiant »

I'm officially signing on the petition. I had to quit today because of people having drop parties in places and giving me lag. Like I was in the woodland mine with my mage, and the lag was so bad, I had to stop and leave. Also the "Confused Tree" was constantly going O_o, giving me a headache.
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Post by Jumpy »

thinking...
...pvp everywhere would not be a solution...
...pvp in arena neither...
...ban on bad words through npc's neither, like... F--*-u (even if you sing it :) ) as the players abused or annoyed in his game would say it afer a while...
...ignore option... does the ignore option works also on the emo?...
...nuke option... oops not even present on the git version...
...guild acting as a milice? well look at the SA or SS in the 30's (no offense german people or anyone please)...
...Robinwoods all around there, batmans or heroes all around gaining superpowers?...

etc
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Bring the GM's Back....
please run Pink Floyd while singing those words (album the wall)
(english people should know more the meaning of it :D

... after of course you let the experiment work for one monthe period in order to gain solution

please devs work on it and test them whithin this period instead of concentrating on new items, maps or so on...
isn't it the priority?


i see spamming everywhere
botting sometimes but who knwoes...
lack of respect, insults

is tmw the new malicomio to come and take out the pressure of RL insulting, annoying and make "good people" leave the game?
Far West style...

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Post by Katze »

Causing other people to have lag was never against the rules, neither were drop parties. Those rules, in which this is said are still work in progress.

As far as I know, emotes can be ignored.
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Post by mightydefiant »

As for the drop parties, we could have a rule about where they are located to try to avoid lag. Normally I don't mind a little lag at a drop party, even if I'm not getting anything. But in the mine, the game would lock up about a minute are so, eliminating all the fun I was having. And if ignoring does work on the emotes too, I'll try that next time as I didn't think it worked on them.
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Post by Katze »

Oh...yeah, the mines. Jaxad is working on a drop block to make drop parties impossible at some places. So we need to thinka bout the mines in that respect.
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Re: Petition demanding the reinstatment of all the gms.

Post by Macias_P »

I remember that some days ago inma spell was changed. Many people, including myself, wanted the old and buggy inma to be restored. Maybe we don't like changes.

The experiment has been going on for two days now. Not enough time to draw conclusions, at least not for me.

I don't like botters too. They take a nice area where some nice gameplay can be done and own it, thus making the game a bit worse for other players. But that being said, i've been bugged, by GM's and other players trying to enforce rules taken completely out of context.

It's just an example, but when five or six people go to an isolated area to speak in their native language, they shouldn't be told (quite rudely) by an individual who is passing by to speak english in public. That individual is not PUBLIC, he is more like an intruder. If that person informs a GM that GM should ignore him.

Also, politeness should be a rule,especially for GM's. Most of them behave correctly, but there are some amongst them that don't.

Giving power to some players to stop players abusing others may be necessary. But the actions of GM's must be checked (That's what the logs are for) and even challenged by the community. And is quite difficult to challenge someone when he can kick you or even ban you when you argue. Again, i've seen this happen when a particular GM was having an argument with a player and that player was right. The explanation in the log was just a miserable excuse.

Should game masters should be reinstated, then more measures to control their behavior should be provided. As I said before most of them are ok most of the time. But i don't like the idea of giving up liberty just because i'm afraid of botters, scammers and such.
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Post by Katze »

There are some guidelies worked on that will - hopefully - make clearer, what GMs are supposed to and what they are NOT supposed to do.

I hope this is really being continued...
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Post by Platyna »

I hoped I had been clear on the topic of detailed guidelines. If you are not sure if what you do is right ask me.

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Post by Katze »

Yeah, if that is the case, I will do it. 8) :wink: :P
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