Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

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Backward compatibility?

Nah, it is not god damn Linux kernel, wanna play? Upgrade or fuck off.
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Yea, I am Debian 3.1 user (or I forgot how to download files from the net) so I love using outdated software!
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Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Platyna » Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:12 pm

Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client, for the sake of us all?

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Re: Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Rotonen » Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:24 pm

To give more background into this, she wants a bit saner of a registration and login procedure. This would break backwards compatibility.
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Re: Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Platyna » Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:39 pm

I want progress, not stagnation under cover of backward compatibility.

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Re: Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Jaxad0127 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:42 pm

Could you be more descriptive of what you'd like to see?
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Re: Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Platyna » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:13 pm

I want to e. g. see end of spamminng the server with characters? Which I hear is fixed since several months, and you lazy bums do nothing to pull it into "production" release? Or maybe you think I am a free slave to sit and cut kiddies on the fw?

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Re: Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Jaxad0127 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:30 pm

Platyna wrote:I want to e. g. see end of spamminng the server with characters? Which I hear is fixed since several months, and you lazy bums do nothing to pull it into "production" release? Or maybe you think I am a free slave to sit and cut kiddies on the fw?

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We don't keep track of changes made in eAthena SVN. Feel free to do so yourself and notify us of relevant changes.
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Re: Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Platyna » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:43 pm

I thought that developers are to keep changelogs, naive me.

And I was referring to Madcamel's patches which were submitted to you and are kept on hold since several months because of "backward compatibility" of the TMW client (for all euphemisms I have heard for laziness, this one is definitely most epic one).

And I know I am feel free to do all the work no one else does, so then they can come and take over it when it is ready. ;-) Problem is I am not buying it anymore.

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Re: Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Jaxad0127 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:49 pm

Platyna wrote:I thought that developers are to keep changelogs, naive me.
What does that have to do with anything?
Platyna wrote:And I was referring to Madcamel's patches which were submitted to you and are kept on hold since several months because of "backward compatibility" of the TMW client (for all euphemisms I have heard for laziness, this one is definitely most epic one).
Give me an example. I have not seen any patches from him that would break compatibility with current clients. Note that we can easily drop support for versions less than 0.0.28.1, and likely will soon.
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Re: Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Platyna » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:54 pm

Then make yourself a bottle of coffee, patch the client and release the changes. eAthena DoS-es are known issues since months. It would be alot more constructive than spending time on IRC to bug me and tell me how evil I am. ;-)

And it is not that you should drop support for < 28.1, you should drop support for any client that is being obsoleted by the new release - for your and the majority of players comfort - like the most of games does.

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Re: Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Jaxad0127 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:05 pm

Platyna wrote:Then make yourself a bottle of coffee, patch the client and release the changes. eAthena DoS-es are known issues since months. It would be alot more constructive than spending time on IRC to bug me and tell me how evil I am. ;-)

And it is not that you should drop support for < 28.1, you should drop support for any client that is being obsoleted by the new release - for your and the majority of players comfort - like the most of games does.

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That's why we do it. If we drop support for < 0.0.28, then we can use number input in scripts, fix the rules dialog to have the right characters, instead of the approximation that older clients required, and more.
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Re: Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Platyna » Tue Oct 13, 2009 3:46 pm

Then do so, what stops you?

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Re: Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Matt » Tue Oct 13, 2009 4:46 pm

Since nobody pays the project I would say don't care about Linux users and break backwards compatibility! - Windows has something called .exe and you can easily update with that.
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Re: Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Rotonen » Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:01 pm

So Ubuntu users would be back in the game starting with the release 10.04.

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Re: Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Jaxad0127 » Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:13 pm

We should be able to provide packages for 9.04 and 9.10.
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Re: Should we break backward compatibility of the TMW client?

Post by Platyna » Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:17 pm

Rotonen wrote:So Ubuntu users would be back in the game starting with the release 10.04.

Life is about choices.
We are not going to save the world - it is not our fault that Ubuntu does not provide minor updates like all other distributions do.

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